**

IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+ years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it’s consultancy by attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it’s engagements.



Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5 years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies. No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through reputation.



Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?



Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes. If you’re good, we’ll know it. That means you can count on us choosing you for prime customers, even if you’re more expensive than someone else in our consultants database.



We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design, skill with any programming language, graphic design, project management or technical writing.



If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.



This posting was submitted via the Web interface

I assume you are USA based?

--
Regards

Dave Saville

Yes, So. Calif.

Regards,

Leonard Neely

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Subject: Re: Developers Needed

I assume you are USA based?

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Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed


**

IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+ years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it’s consultancy by attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it’s engagements.



Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5 years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies. No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through reputation.



Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?



Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes. If you’re good, we’ll know it. That means you can count on us choosing you for prime customers, even if you’re more expensive than someone else in our consultants database.



We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design, skill with any programming language, graphic design, project management or technical writing.



If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.



This posting was submitted via the Web interface

This posting was submitted via the Web interface

I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34












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Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.





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The domain "ITProphets.com" is registered to a "Jean Landmesser". It appears that Jean is also a Director for Entuition, Inc. According to their website, they are a Remedy Alliance Partner.

http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean





That's all I know...



Leonard



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Cook [mailto:rcook@DENALIAI.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:27 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed



Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?



Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**

IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+ years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's engagements.



Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5 years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies. No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through reputation.



Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?



Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes. If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than someone else in our consultants database.



We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design, skill with any programming language, graphic design, project management or technical writing.



If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.



This posting was submitted via the Web interface

This posting was submitted via the Web This posting was submitted via the Web interface interface

I believe this Jean Landmesser is the same person who use to worked for
Entuition. Follow this link for more information.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean.

-Mike Scholz

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook


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Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.







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It's about time somebody made a bad pun about "non-prophet"
organizations... Might as well be me.

--Tim

--- Matthew Maxson wrote:
> I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
> (www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and
> a
> generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
> outfit,
> it looks very unimpressive.
>
> Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of
> this
> year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......
>
>
> Organization:
> IT Prophets
> Jean Landmesser
> 3030 Woodbridge Lane
> Canton, GA 30114
> US
> Phone: 7703351410
> Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com
>
> Registrar Name....: Register.com
> Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
> Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
>
> Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM
>
> Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
> Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
> Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003
>
> Administrative Contact:
> IT Prophets
> Jean Landmesser
> 3030 Woodbridge Lane
> Canton, GA 30114
> US
> Phone: 7703351410
> Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com
>
> Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
> Register.Com
> Domain Registrar
> 575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
> New York, NY 10018
> US
> Phone: 902-749-2701
> Fax..: 902-749-5429
> Email: domain-registrar@register.com
>
> Domain servers in listed order:
>
> POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
> SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Cook
>
> > ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> COM> cc:
>
> Sent by: "Action Subject: Re:
> Developers Needed
> Request System
>
> discussion
>
> list(ARSList)"
>
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> .ORG>
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>
> 07/08/2003 09:26
>
> AM
>
> Please respond
>
> to arslist
>
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> **
> Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
> Bueller?
>
> Rick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
> To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Developers Needed
>
> **
> IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined
> 20+
> years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's
> consultancy by
> attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
> engagements.
>
> Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as
> significant
> project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have
> over 5
> years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
> companies.
> No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
> reputation.
>
> Why is this better than working with the average consultancy
> firm?
>
> Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means
> longer
> engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we
> know how
> to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
> makes.
> If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
> choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive
> than
> someone else in our consultants database.
>
> We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
> design,
> skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
> management or technical writing.
>
> If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position,
> please
> specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.
>
>
>
>
>

>
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Do you Yahoo!?
SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
http://sbc.yahoo.com

There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it... boguussss
so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook


COM> cc:

Sent by: "Action Subject: Re: Developers
Needed
Request System

discussion

list(ARSList)"


.ORG>





07/08/2003 09:26

AM

Please respond

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**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.







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"who lies their tail off when they first meet you"

What did they lie about?

Agreed that the website needs work, but it seems to me that lots of new
companies need time to get a good website up. Services companies don't
get business through the web very often anyway.

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:40:04 -0700, Leonid Orlov
wrote:

>There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it... boguussss
>so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
>professional looking site.
>
>And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
>more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...
>
>/L/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
>To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
>Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed
>
>
>I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
>(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
>generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
>it looks very unimpressive.
>
>Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
>year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......
>
>
>Organization:
>IT Prophets
>Jean Landmesser
>3030 Woodbridge Lane
>Canton, GA 30114
>US
>Phone: 7703351410
>Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com
>
>Registrar Name....: Register.com
>Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
>Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
>
>Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM
>
>Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
>Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
>Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003
>
>Administrative Contact:
>IT Prophets
>Jean Landmesser
>3030 Woodbridge Lane
>Canton, GA 30114
>US
>Phone: 7703351410
>Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com
>
>Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
>Register.Com
>Domain Registrar
>575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
>New York, NY 10018
>US
>Phone: 902-749-2701
>Fax..: 902-749-5429
>Email: domain-registrar@register.com
>
>Domain servers in listed order:
>
>POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
>SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34
>
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>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Cook
>
> ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
>
> COM> cc:
>
> Sent by: "Action Subject: Re: Developers
>Needed
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>
> discussion
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>
>
>
>
>
> 07/08/2003 09:26
>
> AM
>
> Please respond
>
> to arslist
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>**
>Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
>
>Rick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
> To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Developers Needed
>
> **
> IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
> years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
> attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
> engagements.
>
> Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
> project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
> years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
> No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
> reputation.
>
> Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?
>
> Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
> engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know
how
> to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
> If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
> choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
> someone else in our consultants database.
>
> We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
> skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
> management or technical writing.
>
> If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
> specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.
>
>
>
>
>

>
>
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What

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I really hate to jump on the band wagon as well but I have had dealings with Kevin Taylor in the past. He was able to bankrupt Northeastern Solutions; Something about money mismanagement and/or questionable business practices.

I am not gonna toss mud around but I would never work with this guy everagain.

http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Kevin

-scott

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Leonard Neely
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** **
The domain "ITProphets.com" is registered to a "Jean Landmesser". It appears that Jean is also a Director for Entuition, Inc. According to their website, they are a Remedy Alliance Partner.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean


That's all I know...

Leonard

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Cook [mailto:rcook@DENALIAI.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:27 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed

Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed
**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+ years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5 years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies. No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes. If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design, skill with any programming language, graphic design, project management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.

This posting was submitted via the Web interface

This posting was submitted via the Web This posting was submitted via the Web interface interface

This posting was submitted via the Web interface

Ok, since when is putting Remedy developers to work a
bad thing? I know Jean and this is indeed a new start-up
but they have energy and are customer centric. Certainly
a rare thing today. As for their website, anyone see my
first shot a web design? Nuff said.

If the list exists to share information and promote equal
opportunities for the countless faces out there that have
invested hard earned money and time to get certified then
any job opportunity is just that, an opportunity. As for
lying, where do you get that from?

I guess I am living in a bubble because I DON'T see a lot
of consultants NOT looking to put food on their tables these
days and to the contrary I know several that have left Remedy
and are now in CONSTRUCTION !!

These are difficult economic times and competition is tough!

My $.02

Regards...Gidd



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Leonid Orlov
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:40 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it... boguussss
so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















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Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.







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Did anyone ever hear much about or from Entuition?

I really like this statement from the link in the previous message!!!

"she perfected her mastery of business process technologies, including SQL, SAP,
PeopleSoft and Remedy while developing her management skills. "

Has anyone here mastered Remedy? Gidd? Rick Cook? Wait! I know... Pat Z has!

Claire Sanford
Information Systems Division
Memorial Hermann Healthcare System
Phone: 713 448 6035
Fax: 713 448 6350
clairesanford@mhhs.org


-----Original Message-----
From: PHT ARS List [mailto:ARSList@PHTCORP.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:36 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I believe this Jean Landmesser is the same person who use to worked for
Entuition. Follow this link for more information.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean.

-Mike Scholz

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook


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**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.







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Funny that if you look at the page now its the place holder page from the ISP.

-scott

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Matthew Maxson
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07/08/2003 08:53 AM
Please respond to arslist

To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
cc:
Subject: Re: Developers Needed



I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34












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Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.





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Hey Folks,

We get our Remedy support through Entuition and plan to continue to do so as
they have give my company wonderful service. When Jean worked at Entuition,
she helped me a lot and was always very courteous and pleasant to speak
with. Everyone else in the company has also been great to work with and have
gone above and beyond for us. I think that speaks volumes about their
company even in today's market.

Although new to the ARS List, I can see the flames starting and hope this
helps put any fires out before they get too big. I am happy with Entuition
and the people that work and worked for them.

Thanks,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Sanford, Claire [mailto:ClaireSanford@MHHS.ORG]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:51 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


Did anyone ever hear much about or from Entuition?

I really like this statement from the link in the previous message!!!

"she perfected her mastery of business process technologies, including SQL,
SAP,
PeopleSoft and Remedy while developing her management skills. "

Has anyone here mastered Remedy? Gidd? Rick Cook? Wait! I know... Pat Z
has!

Claire Sanford
Information Systems Division
Memorial Hermann Healthcare System
Phone: 713 448 6035
Fax: 713 448 6350
clairesanford@mhhs.org


-----Original Message-----
From: PHT ARS List [mailto:ARSList@PHTCORP.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:36 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I believe this Jean Landmesser is the same person who use to worked for
Entuition. Follow this link for more information.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean.

-Mike Scholz

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook


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Needed
Request System

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**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.







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Well said, Gidd! There are probably some valid reasons for the web site and the wording in the advertisement. If the IT Prophets folks would like to clear that up publicly, they know where we are. If you want answers, I would suggest lighting a candle by contacting ITP directly, instead of cursing the darkness and continuing to bash them here.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Gidd Calden [mailto:gidd@BUOYANTSOLUTIONS.NET]
Sent: Tue 7/8/2003 8:36 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Cc:
Subject: Re: Developers Needed



Ok, since when is putting Remedy developers to work a
bad thing? I know Jean and this is indeed a new start-up
but they have energy and are customer centric. Certainly
a rare thing today. As for their website, anyone see my
first shot a web design? Nuff said.

If the list exists to share information and promote equal
opportunities for the countless faces out there that have
invested hard earned money and time to get certified then
any job opportunity is just that, an opportunity. As for
lying, where do you get that from?

I guess I am living in a bubble because I DON'T see a lot
of consultants NOT looking to put food on their tables these
days and to the contrary I know several that have left Remedy
and are now in CONSTRUCTION !!

These are difficult economic times and competition is tough!

My $.02

Regards...Gidd



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Leonid Orlov
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:40 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it... boguussss
so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















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Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.







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I prefer to think of myself as someone who practices Remedy - sort of like a Doctor who is always learning new ways to do it better. I doubt I will ever master Remedy - Doug Mueller is the standard by which all candidates are measured - and fall short.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Sanford, Claire [mailto:ClaireSanford@MHHS.ORG]
Sent: Tue 7/8/2003 8:51 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Cc:
Subject: Re: Developers Needed



Did anyone ever hear much about or from Entuition?

I really like this statement from the link in the previous message!!!

"she perfected her mastery of business process technologies, including SQL, SAP,
PeopleSoft and Remedy while developing her management skills. "

Has anyone here mastered Remedy? Gidd? Rick Cook? Wait! I know... Pat Z has!

Claire Sanford
Information Systems Division
Memorial Hermann Healthcare System
Phone: 713 448 6035
Fax: 713 448 6350
clairesanford@mhhs.org


-----Original Message-----
From: PHT ARS List [mailto:ARSList@PHTCORP.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:36 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I believe this Jean Landmesser is the same person who use to worked for
Entuition. Follow this link for more information.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean.

-Mike Scholz

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook


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Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.







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I am an ex-Entuition employee, and I don't want to use my real name
because of an ongoing situation that many of us ex-Entuition folk are
having to deal with.

Scott is completely correct, do not work with Kevin Taylor. In addition
to the things Scott says, Kevin also has temper problems. He has cursed
out employees on more than one occasion, myself included. Jean however,
was by far the best manager at Entuition and was great to work with/for.

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:38:10 -0500, Scott Barr
wrote:

>I really hate to jump on the band wagon as well but I have had dealings
>with Kevin Taylor in the past. He was able to bankrupt Northeastern
>Solutions; Something about money mismanagement and/or questionable
>business practices.
>
>I am not gonna toss mud around but I would never work with this guy
everagain.
>
>http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Kevin
>
>-scott
>
>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>Scott Barr
>email: scott.barr@regions.com
>phone: 334-230-6196
>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>
>
>
>
>
>Leonard Neely
>Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)"
>
>07/08/2003 09:12 AM
>Please respond to arslist
>
>
> To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> cc:
> Subject: Re: Developers Needed
>
>
>** **
>The domain "ITProphets.com" is registered to a "Jean Landmesser". It
>appears that Jean is also a Director for Entuition, Inc. According to
>their website, they are a Remedy Alliance Partner.
>http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean
>
>
>That's all I know...
>
>Leonard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Cook [mailto:rcook@DENALIAI.COM]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:27 AM
>To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Developers Needed
>
>Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
>
>Rick
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
>To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Developers Needed
>**
>IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+ years
>of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by attracting
>talented and professional developers to fulfill it's engagements.
>
>Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant project
>management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5 years of
>Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies. No one at IT
>Prophets is a salesman, we get business through reputation.
>
>Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?
>
>Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
>engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how to
>evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes. If
>you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us choosing you
>for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than someone else in
>our consultants database.
>
>We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design, skill
>with any programming language, graphic design, project management or
>technical writing.
>
>If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please specify
>and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.
>
>

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Folks,
In all fairness the original post never listed a URL. Granted, curiosity
will drive people to seek more information but can you really deride them
for something they never directed you to in the first place?

At 11:14 AM 7/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>"who lies their tail off when they first meet you"
>
>What did they lie about?
>
>Agreed that the website needs work, but it seems to me that lots of new
>companies need time to get a good website up. Services companies don't
>get business through the web very often anyway.
>
>On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:40:04 -0700, Leonid Orlov
> wrote:
>
> >There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it... boguussss
> >so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
> >professional looking site.
> >
> >And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
> >more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...
> >
> >/L/
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
> >To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
> >Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed
> >
> >
> >I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
> >(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
> >generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
>outfit,
> >it looks very unimpressive.
> >
> >Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of this
> >year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......
> >
> >
> >Organization:
> >IT Prophets
> >Jean Landmesser
> >3030 Woodbridge Lane
> >Canton, GA 30114
> >US
> >Phone: 7703351410
> >Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com
> >
> >Registrar Name....: Register.com
> >Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
> >Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
> >
> >Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM
> >
> >Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
> >Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
> >Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003
> >
> >Administrative Contact:
> >IT Prophets
> >Jean Landmesser
> >3030 Woodbridge Lane
> >Canton, GA 30114
> >US
> >Phone: 7703351410
> >Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com
> >
> >Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
> >Register.Com
> >Domain Registrar
> >575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
> >New York, NY 10018
> >US
> >Phone: 902-749-2701
> >Fax..: 902-749-5429
> >Email: domain-registrar@register.com
> >
> >Domain servers in listed order:
> >
> >POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
> >SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Cook
> >
> > >ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> >
> > COM> cc:
> >
> > Sent by: "Action Subject: Re: Developers
> >Needed
> > Request System
> >
> > discussion
> >
> > list(ARSList)"
> >
> > > >
> > .ORG>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 07/08/2003 09:26
> >
> > AM
> >
> > Please respond
> >
> > to arslist
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >**
> >Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
> >
> >Rick
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
> > To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Developers Needed
> >
> > **
> > IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+
> > years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by
> > attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
> > engagements.
> >
> > Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
> > project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5
> > years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies.
> > No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
> > reputation.
> >
> > Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?
> >
> > Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
> > engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know
>how
> > to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
>makes.
> > If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
> > choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than
> > someone else in our consultants database.
> >
> > We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design,
> > skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
> > management or technical writing.
> >
> > If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
> > specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I've worked with Jean before. She's a great person to work for, very
friendly and genuine, treats people well. She had a great reputation at
Entuition (though I believe she's trying to distance herself from them).
So the comments about all the years of Remedy experience and the
engagements with Fortune 500 companies are true. Entuition did a lot of
business with companies like that, and she was in charge of those
accounts.

Given her positive reputation, she probably brought along some good
people with her to IT Prophets. Perhaps more importantly, her history
probably gives her a good "in route" with a lot of top notch Remedy
engagements.

Guillaume Rheault
Senior Remedy Consultant

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Leonid Orlov
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:40 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it...
boguussss so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do
more professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit, it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of
this year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook

ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG

COM> cc:

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Needed
Request System

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list(ARSList)"


.ORG>





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AM

Please respond

to arslist









**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined
20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy
by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over
5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know
how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive
than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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Claire,
Yuck yuck, I wish Claire ..
This is sad... I surely hope I have Never indicated that I know everything
about remedy...
Because I still have a Ton to learn, and would think that from my posts this
is obvious.

However with my failing physical abilities to function the mouse or keyboard
much these days..
It appears that I may have a short remedy ability to function even nominally
anyhow in the future.

OR, you all are Busting my chops again... =8->

It is obvious they are looking for their Master Remedy Guru. I would like to
find out
How much they plan on paying someone, based on their Master Guru
capabilities.

The highest paying Remedy Job as a developer that I have seen was
$128 Hour 40 hour week, overtime was double, 1 year minimum.
Or 245K a year + overtime.




-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Cook [mailto:rcook@DENALIAI.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:35 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I prefer to think of myself as someone who practices Remedy - sort of like a
Doctor who is always learning new ways to do it better. I doubt I will ever
master Remedy - Doug Mueller is the standard by which all candidates are
measured - and fall short.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Sanford, Claire [mailto:ClaireSanford@MHHS.ORG]
Sent: Tue 7/8/2003 8:51 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Cc:
Subject: Re: Developers Needed



Did anyone ever hear much about or from Entuition?

I really like this statement from the link in the previous
message!!!

"she perfected her mastery of business process technologies,
including SQL, SAP,
PeopleSoft and Remedy while developing her management skills. "

Has anyone here mastered Remedy? Gidd? Rick Cook? Wait! I
know... Pat Z has!

Claire Sanford
Information Systems Division
Memorial Hermann Healthcare System
Phone: 713 448 6035
Fax: 713 448 6350
clairesanford@mhhs.org


-----Original Message-----
From: PHT ARS List [mailto:ARSList@PHTCORP.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:36 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I believe this Jean Landmesser is the same person who use to worked
for
Entuition. Follow this link for more information.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean.

-Mike Scholz

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and
a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May
of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

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Bueller?

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-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a
combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's
consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill
it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as
significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have
over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy
firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means
longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we
know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more
expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position,
please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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I think everyone who is having trouble with this, should re-read the original post.

Here is a company posting possible work available. Everything else said in this thread has been assumed, implied, or derived from another source.
I am really having a hard time with so much dissent, distrust, and disrespect for someone putting the possibility of more Remedy work in front of us.

Here's wishing ITProphets all the success they can earn! Welcome to the ARSList!!

*** original post ***

IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+ years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it’s consultancy by attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it’s engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5 years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies. No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes. If you’re good, we’ll know it. That means you can count on us choosing you for prime customers, even if you’re more expensive than someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design, skill with any programming language, graphic design, project management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.



This posting was submitted via the Web interface

**
Thanks Mark and I agree,

Could some of this negativity be coming from the Peregrine year...

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Blankenship [mailto:mark.blankenship@VISTAIT.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:58 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: FW: Developers Needed


**
I think everyone who is having trouble with this, should re-read the original post.

Here is a company posting possible work available. Everything else said in this thread has been assumed, implied, or derived from another source.
I am really having a hard time with so much dissent, distrust, and disrespect for someone putting the possibility of more Remedy work in front of us.

Here's wishing ITProphets all the success they can earn! Welcome to the ARSList!!

*** original post ***


IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+ years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy by attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's engagements.



Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5 years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies. No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?



Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes. If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive than someone else in our consultants database.



We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design, skill with any programming language, graphic design, project management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.



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I second this. I wish them all the best in their ventures. I must say I like the idea of a company whose expectation is to survive based on their reputation. This is my personal motto, and it has not failed me thus far.



Axton Grams



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mark Blankenship
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:58 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: FW: Developers Needed



I think everyone who is having trouble with this, should re-read the original post.



Here is a company posting possible work available. Everything else said in this thread has been assumed, implied, or derived from another source.

I am really having a hard time with so much dissent, distrust, and disrespect for someone putting the possibility of more Remedy work in front of us.



Here's wishing ITProphets all the success they can earn! Welcome to the ARSList!!



*** original post ***

IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined 20+ years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it’s consultancy by attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it’s engagements.



Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over 5 years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500 companies. No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?



Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know how to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it makes. If you’re good, we’ll know it. That means you can count on us choosing you for prime customers, even if you’re more expensive than someone else in our consultants database.



We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web design, skill with any programming language, graphic design, project management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.



This posting was submitted via the Web This posting was submitted via the Web interface interface

This post isn't directed at anyone in particular, I just chose Gidd's
because he's the first person to sort of "defend" IT Prophet's
advertisement.

I will start by saying that I do not know anything about Jean or the
company she is trying to start. However, I would direct everyone's
attention to the post several days ago regarding the recruiters out
there without ethics. Not to say Jean or this company has none; again, I
don't know them. However, I am a bit skeptical in that it seems their
post is merely a cast into the pond of Remedy developers, hoping to get
a few bites. Stating that they're willing to review the resume of anyone
who happens to know anything about other software technologies doesn't
endear me to them any further - again, throwing the line out to see how
many resumes they can add to their "resource pool."

Perhaps they will get work; I sincerely hope they can be successful. But
to get work, they need resources. And how much they are willing to pay
will speak volumes about whether or not they're in this to create a
mutually-successful working relationship with us developers or they're
in it to reap the benefits of our "looking to put food on [our] tables."

Just my observations...

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:37 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed

Ok, since when is putting Remedy developers to work a
bad thing? I know Jean and this is indeed a new start-up
but they have energy and are customer centric. Certainly
a rare thing today. As for their website, anyone see my
first shot a web design? Nuff said.

If the list exists to share information and promote equal
opportunities for the countless faces out there that have
invested hard earned money and time to get certified then
any job opportunity is just that, an opportunity. As for
lying, where do you get that from?

I guess I am living in a bubble because I DON'T see a lot
of consultants NOT looking to put food on their tables these
days and to the contrary I know several that have left Remedy
and are now in CONSTRUCTION !!

These are difficult economic times and competition is tough!

My $.02

Regards...Gidd



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Leonid Orlov
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:40 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it...
boguussss
so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of
this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook

ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG

COM> cc:

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Needed
Request System

discussion

list(ARSList)"


.ORG>





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AM

Please respond

to arslist









**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined
20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy
by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over
5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know
how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive
than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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Don't know what the fuss is all about basically. Me personally I also like job opportunities getting posted at the list (though most are not around my region) ...and if it's just for knowing whats going on at the market in general.

Regarding this company, have not heard about it, or about the persons involved in particular (again region), but well. If one is looking for a job, trying out an employeer can't be that bad, right? If things are not going like one expected them to be, you can always leave and go on, can't you?


Well, hope such postings are continuing to be posted around here, despite of some reactions (not sure about list's policies though regarding those). Prefer them much better being around here, then having to check Monster or similar pages.


Just my two Euros :-)
Robert


-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Eric Pawlyshyn [mailto:epawlyshyn@HOTMAIL.COM]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 07:06
An: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: Developers Needed


This post isn't directed at anyone in particular, I just chose Gidd's
because he's the first person to sort of "defend" IT Prophet's
advertisement.

I will start by saying that I do not know anything about Jean or the
company she is trying to start. However, I would direct everyone's
attention to the post several days ago regarding the recruiters out
there without ethics. Not to say Jean or this company has none; again, I
don't know them. However, I am a bit skeptical in that it seems their
post is merely a cast into the pond of Remedy developers, hoping to get
a few bites. Stating that they're willing to review the resume of anyone
who happens to know anything about other software technologies doesn't
endear me to them any further - again, throwing the line out to see how
many resumes they can add to their "resource pool."

Perhaps they will get work; I sincerely hope they can be successful. But
to get work, they need resources. And how much they are willing to pay
will speak volumes about whether or not they're in this to create a
mutually-successful working relationship with us developers or they're
in it to reap the benefits of our "looking to put food on [our] tables."

Just my observations...

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:37 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed

Ok, since when is putting Remedy developers to work a
bad thing? I know Jean and this is indeed a new start-up
but they have energy and are customer centric. Certainly
a rare thing today. As for their website, anyone see my
first shot a web design? Nuff said.

If the list exists to share information and promote equal
opportunities for the countless faces out there that have
invested hard earned money and time to get certified then
any job opportunity is just that, an opportunity. As for
lying, where do you get that from?

I guess I am living in a bubble because I DON'T see a lot
of consultants NOT looking to put food on their tables these
days and to the contrary I know several that have left Remedy
and are now in CONSTRUCTION !!

These are difficult economic times and competition is tough!

My $.02

Regards...Gidd



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Leonid Orlov
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:40 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it...
boguussss
so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of
this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook

ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG

COM> cc:

Sent by: "Action Subject: Re: Developers
Needed
Request System

discussion

list(ARSList)"


.ORG>





07/08/2003 09:26

AM

Please respond

to arslist









**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined
20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy
by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over
5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know
how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive
than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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Do you not think that it is a little unnerving that doctors call what they
do "practice" ?

Cheers

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: 08 July 2003 17:35
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I prefer to think of myself as someone who practices Remedy - sort of like a
Doctor who is always learning new ways to do it better. I doubt I will ever
master Remedy - Doug Mueller is the standard by which all candidates are
measured - and fall short.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Sanford, Claire [mailto:ClaireSanford@MHHS.ORG]
Sent: Tue 7/8/2003 8:51 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Cc:
Subject: Re: Developers Needed



Did anyone ever hear much about or from Entuition?

I really like this statement from the link in the previous
message!!!

"she perfected her mastery of business process technologies,
including SQL, SAP,
PeopleSoft and Remedy while developing her management skills. "

Has anyone here mastered Remedy? Gidd? Rick Cook? Wait! I
know... Pat Z has!

Claire Sanford
Information Systems Division
Memorial Hermann Healthcare System
Phone: 713 448 6035
Fax: 713 448 6350
clairesanford@mhhs.org


-----Original Message-----
From: PHT ARS List [mailto:ARSList@PHTCORP.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:36 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I believe this Jean Landmesser is the same person who use to worked
for
Entuition. Follow this link for more information.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean.

-Mike Scholz

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and
a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May
of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















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COM> cc:

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Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a
combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's
consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill
it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as
significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have
over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy
firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means
longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we
know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more
expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position,
please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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Robert,

So does lawyers, but do we have a choice to accept it as that or not....?
:-)


Best Regards,
Theo J. Fondse
Remedy Developer
Siemens Business Services

Telephone: +27 11 652 7477
Mobile: +27 83 773 3075
e-Mail: theo.fondse@ars.smc.siemens.co.za
Web: http://www.siemens.co.za/
===========================================================================


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Page [mailto:r.d.page@BTINTERNET.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:42 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


Rick

Do you not think that it is a little unnerving that doctors call what they
do "practice" ?

Cheers

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: 08 July 2003 17:35
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I prefer to think of myself as someone who practices Remedy - sort of like a
Doctor who is always learning new ways to do it better. I doubt I will ever
master Remedy - Doug Mueller is the standard by which all candidates are
measured - and fall short.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Sanford, Claire [mailto:ClaireSanford@MHHS.ORG]
Sent: Tue 7/8/2003 8:51 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Cc:
Subject: Re: Developers Needed



Did anyone ever hear much about or from Entuition?

I really like this statement from the link in the previous
message!!!

"she perfected her mastery of business process technologies,
including SQL, SAP,
PeopleSoft and Remedy while developing her management skills. "

Has anyone here mastered Remedy? Gidd? Rick Cook? Wait! I
know... Pat Z has!

Claire Sanford
Information Systems Division
Memorial Hermann Healthcare System
Phone: 713 448 6035
Fax: 713 448 6350
clairesanford@mhhs.org


-----Original Message-----
From: PHT ARS List [mailto:ARSList@PHTCORP.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:36 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I believe this Jean Landmesser is the same person who use to worked
for
Entuition. Follow this link for more information.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean.

-Mike Scholz

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and
a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May
of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















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**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a
combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's
consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill
it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as
significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have
over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy
firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means
longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we
know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more
expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position,
please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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I think it's far more unnerving to consider the title bestowed upon the person who finishes last in his/her class at Med school: Doctor. :)

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Page [mailto:r.d.page@BTINTERNET.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 01:42
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


Rick

Do you not think that it is a little unnerving that doctors call what they
do "practice" ?

Cheers

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: 08 July 2003 17:35
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I prefer to think of myself as someone who practices Remedy - sort of like a
Doctor who is always learning new ways to do it better. I doubt I will ever
master Remedy - Doug Mueller is the standard by which all candidates are
measured - and fall short.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Sanford, Claire [mailto:ClaireSanford@MHHS.ORG]
Sent: Tue 7/8/2003 8:51 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Cc:
Subject: Re: Developers Needed



Did anyone ever hear much about or from Entuition?

I really like this statement from the link in the previous
message!!!

"she perfected her mastery of business process technologies,
including SQL, SAP,
PeopleSoft and Remedy while developing her management skills. "

Has anyone here mastered Remedy? Gidd? Rick Cook? Wait! I
know... Pat Z has!

Claire Sanford
Information Systems Division
Memorial Hermann Healthcare System
Phone: 713 448 6035
Fax: 713 448 6350
clairesanford@mhhs.org


-----Original Message-----
From: PHT ARS List [mailto:ARSList@PHTCORP.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:36 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I believe this Jean Landmesser is the same person who use to worked
for
Entuition. Follow this link for more information.
http://www.entuition.com/aboutus.htm#Jean.

-Mike Scholz

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and
a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May
of this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















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**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a
combined 20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's
consultancy by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill
it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as
significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have
over 5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy
firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means
longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we
know how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more
expensive than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position,
please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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Awwww man...I was hoping this thread would die, just because it seems sort
of obvious to me.

It seems to me like everyone is right here. It's good that potential
employers post opportunities. In fact, seeing a startup looking for people
is rather comforting given the recent economy.

It's also good that other ARS professionals share their business, as well as
technical, experience with the list. That includes praise, criticism and
opinions of the business practices of potential customers, employers and
other developers (short of slander/libel, of course).

It all comes down to picking your opportunities wisely, I suppose. I've been
lucky in that I've always worked for ethical and honest people before and
currently, but I know others have not and that there are crooks out there.
In truth, were I not in a situation with nice long-term potential, I would
have sent my resume already just to see what they could do for me and I for
them.

So, let's hope the IT Prophets of the world post freely, and that those who
have done business with the people involved post their experiences and
hopefully we'll all be better off for it in the end.

Just make sure you read the entire contract if you sign on (with anyone, of
course). ;)

Chris Woyton

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Kern Robert (SBA)
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:22 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Developers Needed


Don't know what the fuss is all about basically. Me personally I also like
job opportunities getting posted at the list (though most are not around my
region) ...and if it's just for knowing whats going on at the market in
general.

Regarding this company, have not heard about it, or about the persons
involved in particular (again region), but well. If one is looking for a
job, trying out an employeer can't be that bad, right? If things are not
going like one expected them to be, you can always leave and go on, can't
you?


Well, hope such postings are continuing to be posted around here, despite of
some reactions (not sure about list's policies though regarding those).
Prefer them much better being around here, then having to check Monster or
similar pages.


Just my two Euros :-)
Robert


-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Eric Pawlyshyn [mailto:epawlyshyn@HOTMAIL.COM]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 07:06
An: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: Developers Needed


This post isn't directed at anyone in particular, I just chose Gidd's
because he's the first person to sort of "defend" IT Prophet's
advertisement.

I will start by saying that I do not know anything about Jean or the
company she is trying to start. However, I would direct everyone's
attention to the post several days ago regarding the recruiters out
there without ethics. Not to say Jean or this company has none; again, I
don't know them. However, I am a bit skeptical in that it seems their
post is merely a cast into the pond of Remedy developers, hoping to get
a few bites. Stating that they're willing to review the resume of anyone
who happens to know anything about other software technologies doesn't
endear me to them any further - again, throwing the line out to see how
many resumes they can add to their "resource pool."

Perhaps they will get work; I sincerely hope they can be successful. But
to get work, they need resources. And how much they are willing to pay
will speak volumes about whether or not they're in this to create a
mutually-successful working relationship with us developers or they're
in it to reap the benefits of our "looking to put food on [our] tables."

Just my observations...

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:37 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed

Ok, since when is putting Remedy developers to work a
bad thing? I know Jean and this is indeed a new start-up
but they have energy and are customer centric. Certainly
a rare thing today. As for their website, anyone see my
first shot a web design? Nuff said.

If the list exists to share information and promote equal
opportunities for the countless faces out there that have
invested hard earned money and time to get certified then
any job opportunity is just that, an opportunity. As for
lying, where do you get that from?

I guess I am living in a bubble because I DON'T see a lot
of consultants NOT looking to put food on their tables these
days and to the contrary I know several that have left Remedy
and are now in CONSTRUCTION !!

These are difficult economic times and competition is tough!

My $.02

Regards...Gidd



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Leonid Orlov
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:40 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it...
boguussss
so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of
this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook

ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG

COM> cc:

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Needed
Request System

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**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined
20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy
by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over
5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know
how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive
than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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Hello Eric,

I am the one who posted about the sharks out there (immoral am unethical
recruiters), so it is my duty to continue this thread to clear out my
point. The recruiters I was referring to are companies that do
supplemental IT staffing in anything, taking a huge piece of the pie
without bringing any value at all.

In my opinion, most people reading the IT Prophets post will identify
their core business as Remedy. So that should be sufficient to consider
them as a Remedy consultancy, not a supplememental staffing shop. The
reason they are looking for people with other technical skills reflects
the fact that Remedy is a technology hub, in which many technologies
connect to it, and consultants will most likely do some project
management and technical writing too, therefore the need for these
skills too.

Guillaume Rheault
Senior Remedy Consultant

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Pawlyshyn [mailto:epawlyshyn@HOTMAIL.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:06 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


This post isn't directed at anyone in particular, I just chose Gidd's
because he's the first person to sort of "defend" IT Prophet's
advertisement.

I will start by saying that I do not know anything about Jean or the
company she is trying to start. However, I would direct everyone's
attention to the post several days ago regarding the recruiters out
there without ethics. Not to say Jean or this company has none; again, I
don't know them. However, I am a bit skeptical in that it seems their
post is merely a cast into the pond of Remedy developers, hoping to get
a few bites. Stating that they're willing to review the resume of anyone
who happens to know anything about other software technologies doesn't
endear me to them any further - again, throwing the line out to see how
many resumes they can add to their "resource pool."

Perhaps they will get work; I sincerely hope they can be successful. But
to get work, they need resources. And how much they are willing to pay
will speak volumes about whether or not they're in this to create a
mutually-successful working relationship with us developers or they're
in it to reap the benefits of our "looking to put food on [our] tables."

Just my observations...

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:37 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed

Ok, since when is putting Remedy developers to work a
bad thing? I know Jean and this is indeed a new start-up
but they have energy and are customer centric. Certainly
a rare thing today. As for their website, anyone see my
first shot a web design? Nuff said.

If the list exists to share information and promote equal opportunities
for the countless faces out there that have invested hard earned money
and time to get certified then any job opportunity is just that, an
opportunity. As for lying, where do you get that from?

I guess I am living in a bubble because I DON'T see a lot
of consultants NOT looking to put food on their tables these days and to
the contrary I know several that have left Remedy and are now in
CONSTRUCTION !!

These are difficult economic times and competition is tough!

My $.02

Regards...Gidd



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Leonid Orlov
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:40 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it...
boguussss so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do
more professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit, it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of
this year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook

ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG

COM> cc:

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Needed
Request System

discussion

list(ARSList)"


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Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined
20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy
by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over
5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know
how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive
than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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Wow. When I first saw "Developers Needed" in the subject line yesterday, I ignored it because I'm not looking right now. But when I saw a whopping 30+ emails in the same thread this morning, I was compelled to investigate. I could not believe how catty some folks got over an obviously brand new company! Can't we be happy for them that they were able to strike out on their own with confidence that they could provide quality services to major players in the industry? I mean some of you were trying to rip them apart before they even got started! All I could think of is how would you have felt if it were the other way around? If you decided to put up a shingle and folks just blasted you based on nothing but gp?

Actually, I only decided to write to let it be known that I too have had a brief interaction with Jean Landmesser while she was with Entuition and while they were trying to push a contract forward. I can tell you she was definitely the most pleasant and above board person/agent that I have dealt with in this industry (and I've dealt with many). One or two have come close, but she definitely left a great impression with me. The most notables were:

- Not pushy
- Looks to pay for your service
- Above board contracts
- Keeps you completely in the loop
- Not born of the "contract with client fails, I bail" mentality-- she didn't vanish into thin air, instead looked into other possibilities and even provided leads with other agents and/or ccompanies.
- In a market where all contracts appears to be bare-to-the-bones and all-inclusive rates, she and company were prepared to treat me like a consultant of yesteryears (sad to call it that) where expenses were not my responsibility-- and the rate was great.

Basically, if I had the opportunity to work with her again, I would take it with a smile. You don't have to follow suit, but can we stop pushing out hate and just focus on the positives (unless it's a genuine warning like the one of one of her former associates! ;-)? I know at least most, if not all of your mothers taught you how to complete the following... If you don't have anything good to say...

And if for some reason you're still rebelling against your mom, you can always go with Rodney King... 'Can't we all just get along???' :-)

OK. That's my 2 pennies worth. Good luck IT Prophets!


KP


Kellie Porter
Senior Consultant
KelPort Consulting, Inc.


--- Chris Woyton wrote:

Awwww man...I was hoping this thread would die, just because it seems sort
of obvious to me.

It seems to me like everyone is right here. It's good that potential
employers post opportunities. In fact, seeing a startup looking for people
is rather comforting given the recent economy.

It's also good that other ARS professionals share their business, as well as
technical, experience with the list. That includes praise, criticism and
opinions of the business practices of potential customers, employers and
other developers (short of slander/libel, of course).

It all comes down to picking your opportunities wisely, I suppose. I've been
lucky in that I've always worked for ethical and honest people before and
currently, but I know others have not and that there are crooks out there.
In truth, were I not in a situation with nice long-term potential, I would
have sent my resume already just to see what they could do for me and I for
them.

So, let's hope the IT Prophets of the world post freely, and that those who
have done business with the people involved post their experiences and
hopefully we'll all be better off for it in the end.

Just make sure you read the entire contract if you sign on (with anyone, of
course). ;)

Chris Woyton

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Kern Robert (SBA)
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:22 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Developers Needed


Don't know what the fuss is all about basically. Me personally I also like
job opportunities getting posted at the list (though most are not around my
region) ...and if it's just for knowing whats going on at the market in
general.

Regarding this company, have not heard about it, or about the persons
involved in particular (again region), but well. If one is looking for a
job, trying out an employeer can't be that bad, right? If things are not
going like one expected them to be, you can always leave and go on, can't
you?


Well, hope such postings are continuing to be posted around here, despite of
some reactions (not sure about list's policies though regarding those).
Prefer them much better being around here, then having to check Monster or
similar pages.


Just my two Euros :-)
Robert


-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Eric Pawlyshyn [mailto:epawlyshyn@HOTMAIL.COM]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 07:06
An: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: Developers Needed


This post isn't directed at anyone in particular, I just chose Gidd's
because he's the first person to sort of "defend" IT Prophet's
advertisement.

I will start by saying that I do not know anything about Jean or the
company she is trying to start. However, I would direct everyone's
attention to the post several days ago regarding the recruiters out
there without ethics. Not to say Jean or this company has none; again, I
don't know them. However, I am a bit skeptical in that it seems their
post is merely a cast into the pond of Remedy developers, hoping to get
a few bites. Stating that they're willing to review the resume of anyone
who happens to know anything about other software technologies doesn't
endear me to them any further - again, throwing the line out to see how
many resumes they can add to their "resource pool."

Perhaps they will get work; I sincerely hope they can be successful. But
to get work, they need resources. And how much they are willing to pay
will speak volumes about whether or not they're in this to create a
mutually-successful working relationship with us developers or they're
in it to reap the benefits of our "looking to put food on [our] tables."

Just my observations...

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:37 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed

Ok, since when is putting Remedy developers to work a
bad thing? I know Jean and this is indeed a new start-up
but they have energy and are customer centric. Certainly
a rare thing today. As for their website, anyone see my
first shot a web design? Nuff said.

If the list exists to share information and promote equal
opportunities for the countless faces out there that have
invested hard earned money and time to get certified then
any job opportunity is just that, an opportunity. As for
lying, where do you get that from?

I guess I am living in a bubble because I DON'T see a lot
of consultants NOT looking to put food on their tables these
days and to the contrary I know several that have left Remedy
and are now in CONSTRUCTION !!

These are difficult economic times and competition is tough!

My $.02

Regards...Gidd



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Leonid Orlov
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:40 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Developers Needed


There statement in advertisement is too... how shell I say it...
boguussss
so is their web-site. I think my 12 year old nephew can do more
professional looking site.

And in the statement.... man, I just personally dislike people more and
more... who lies their tail off when they just first meet you...

/L/


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Maxson [mailto:mjmaxson@NISOURCE.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:53 AM
To: ARSLIST@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Developers Needed


I have not heard of them; however, a quick visit to their website
(www.itprophets.com) yielded an incomplete page (several frames and a
generic placeholder in the main frame). For a technical consulting
outfit,
it looks very unimpressive.

Their whois record is equally unimpressive.....Name registered May of
this
year. The main contact has an e-mail address at yahoo.com......


Organization:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: ITPROPHETS.COM

Created on..............: Fri, May 30, 2003
Expires on..............: Mon, May 30, 2005
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 05, 2003

Administrative Contact:
IT Prophets
Jean Landmesser
3030 Woodbridge Lane
Canton, GA 30114
US
Phone: 7703351410
Email: jeanlandmesser@yahoo.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

POLARIS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.35
SIRIUS.BLAZENET.NET 24.104.0.34

















Rick Cook

ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG

COM> cc:

Sent by: "Action Subject: Re: Developers
Needed
Request System

discussion

list(ARSList)"


.ORG>





07/08/2003 09:26

AM

Please respond

to arslist









**
Anybody ever heard of this outfit? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Prophets [mailto:info@ITPROPHETS.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 14:30
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Developers Needed

**
IT Prophets, a software services company founded on a combined
20+
years of Remedy experience, is looking to expand it's consultancy
by
attracting talented and professional developers to fulfill it's
engagements.

Our staff is comprised of Remedy developers as well as significant
project management expertise. Those roles combined, we have over
5
years of Remedy project experience at over 15 Fortune 500
companies.
No one at IT Prophets is a salesman, we get business through
reputation.

Why is this better than working with the average consultancy firm?

Fortune 500 companies tend to have more work. That means longer
engagements, which means more money. Unlike other firms, we know
how
to evaluate technical talent, and we know what a difference it
makes.
If you're good, we'll know it. That means you can count on us
choosing you for prime customers, even if you're more expensive
than
someone else in our consultants database.

We are also looking for talent outside of Remedy, be it web
design,
skill with any programming language, graphic design, project
management or technical writing.

If you are interested in contract OR a permanent position, please
specify and submit your resume to info@itprophets.com.








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