On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:04:09 -0500, Urtiew, Andrei wrote:

>My boss would just say;
>"I think its time I learned a little bit more about Remedy.
>I think I'll go to the RUG 2004 Conference and make sure I know everything
>there is to know about Daiquiris.. I mean User Clients, and sunbathing...


Actually this brings back memories of GUIDE/SHARE conferences. These
were *always* somewhere really nice - especially the European ones -
but we had trouble getting the techies there. The manager would say
"Rome? I'm going" You could tell the managers at the conferences -
they were the ones with a bemused expression because they had
absolutely *no* idea what any of the sessions were about.

Even worse - Some techies from a UK company wanted to go to a GUIDE
conference on the USA west coast - guess who went? A short time later
the shop hit trouble with, IIRC, CICS or IMS - they had a *really*
bad time. Several months later the proceedings of the conference came
out - to their horror they found a paper outlining what they had just
gone through and how to avoid it. Upon pointing this out to their
manager he replied " Err yes I went to that session - didn't
understand any of it."

--
Regards

Dave Saville

Exactly why the focus should remain on having the people from our shops and Remedy's in one place, and not on where that place is. I go for the technical contacts and content, not for the recreational opportunities that I rarely have much time to scope out anyway. I would posit that if someone is attending RUG with other motives than to learn, their dollars would be better spent on something else.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Saville [mailto:dave.saville@NTLWORLD.COM]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:10 AM
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Subject: Re: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:04:09 -0500, Urtiew, Andrei wrote:

>My boss would just say;
>"I think its time I learned a little bit more about Remedy.
>I think I'll go to the RUG 2004 Conference and make sure I know everything
>there is to know about Daiquiris.. I mean User Clients, and sunbathing...


Actually this brings back memories of GUIDE/SHARE conferences. These
were *always* somewhere really nice - especially the European ones -
but we had trouble getting the techies there. The manager would say
"Rome? I'm going" You could tell the managers at the conferences -
they were the ones with a bemused expression because they had
absolutely *no* idea what any of the sessions were about.

Even worse - Some techies from a UK company wanted to go to a GUIDE
conference on the USA west coast - guess who went? A short time later
the shop hit trouble with, IIRC, CICS or IMS - they had a *really*
bad time. Several months later the proceedings of the conference came
out - to their horror they found a paper outlining what they had just
gone through and how to avoid it. Upon pointing this out to their
manager he replied " Err yes I went to that session - didn't
understand any of it."

--
Regards

Dave Saville

That's part of why I voted for West Coast - seemed like lots of Remedy
employees drove up to the conference. Of course, it is nice to have RUG in
a temperate climate with good restaurants.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Cook [mailto:rcook@DENALIAI.COM]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:20 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


Exactly why the focus should remain on having the people from our shops and
Remedy's in one place, and not on where that place is. I go for the
technical contacts and content, not for the recreational opportunities that
I rarely have much time to scope out anyway. I would posit that if someone
is attending RUG with other motives than to learn, their dollars would be
better spent on something else.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Saville [mailto:dave.saville@NTLWORLD.COM]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:10 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:04:09 -0500, Urtiew, Andrei wrote:

>My boss would just say;
>"I think its time I learned a little bit more about Remedy.
>I think I'll go to the RUG 2004 Conference and make sure I know everything
>there is to know about Daiquiris.. I mean User Clients, and sunbathing...


Actually this brings back memories of GUIDE/SHARE conferences. These
were *always* somewhere really nice - especially the European ones -
but we had trouble getting the techies there. The manager would say
"Rome? I'm going" You could tell the managers at the conferences -
they were the ones with a bemused expression because they had
absolutely *no* idea what any of the sessions were about.

Even worse - Some techies from a UK company wanted to go to a GUIDE
conference on the USA west coast - guess who went? A short time later
the shop hit trouble with, IIRC, CICS or IMS - they had a *really*
bad time. Several months later the proceedings of the conference came
out - to their horror they found a paper outlining what they had just
gone through and how to avoid it. Upon pointing this out to their
manager he replied " Err yes I went to that session - didn't
understand any of it."

--
Regards

Dave Saville



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Agree... Next RUG-> http://www.svalbard.net/index.php?sel=997&lang=0

--
Jarl
(its only 2,5h with plane from home....)


>===== Original Message From Rick Cook =====
>Exactly why the focus should remain on having the people from our shops and
Remedy's in one place, and not on where that place is. I go for the technical
contacts and content, not for the recreational opportunities that I rarely
have much time to scope out anyway. I would posit that if someone is
attending RUG with other motives than to learn, their dollars would be better
spent on something else.
>
>Rick
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Saville [mailto:dave.saville@NTLWORLD.COM]
>Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:10 AM
>To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results
>
>
>On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:04:09 -0500, Urtiew, Andrei wrote:
>
>>My boss would just say;
>>"I think its time I learned a little bit more about Remedy.
>>I think I'll go to the RUG 2004 Conference and make sure I know everything
>>there is to know about Daiquiris.. I mean User Clients, and sunbathing...
>
>
>Actually this brings back memories of GUIDE/SHARE conferences. These
>were *always* somewhere really nice - especially the European ones -
>but we had trouble getting the techies there. The manager would say
>"Rome? I'm going" You could tell the managers at the conferences -
>they were the ones with a bemused expression because they had
>absolutely *no* idea what any of the sessions were about.
>
>Even worse - Some techies from a UK company wanted to go to a GUIDE
>conference on the USA west coast - guess who went? A short time later
>the shop hit trouble with, IIRC, CICS or IMS - they had a *really*
>bad time. Several months later the proceedings of the conference came
>out - to their horror they found a paper outlining what they had just
>gone through and how to avoid it. Upon pointing this out to their
>manager he replied " Err yes I went to that session - didn't
>understand any of it."
>
>--
>Regards
>
>Dave Saville
>
>

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Have you been to Baltimore?

I think it would make an excellent RUG 2004 Conference Site.

Steamed Crabs are worth the trip!!! Crab Cakes!!! Camden Yards!!! History
all around!!! (Washington, Fort McHenry, Gettysburg, etc., etc.) Great
Restaurants (Little Italy, Inner Harbor, Fells Point, etc. etc.)

The party could be a big crab feast!! Crabs and Beer (It doesn't get any
better than this)!! Eat till you drop! Of course you'll need a lesson in how
to pick a crab! Only Baltimore natives know how to do it properly.

Of course I live here so I'm bias to this area.

Gordon Frank
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory



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From: Scott Ames [mailto:sames@NOVELL.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:08 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


Here are the results thus far in Word Format. (attached)

77 people have responded to the survey. If you still want to vote you
can do so at:


http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?30E0AXBYL6C4KR4TGAFRJTBK



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**
Seeing as how the city is named after me ......;)

It works for me!

Warren BALTIMORE

Warren R. Baltimore II
Senior Systems Analyst
Information Systems
The Ohio State University Medical Center
1375 Perry St.
Battelle 13-1-125
Columbus, OH 43201
614-293-2315
baltimore-1@medctr.osu.edu

>>> Gordon.Frank@JHUAPL.EDU 4/22/2003 8:16:24 AM >>>
Have you been to Baltimore?

I think it would make an excellent RUG 2004 Conference Site.

Steamed Crabs are worth the trip!!! Crab Cakes!!! Camden Yards!!! History
all around!!! (Washington, Fort McHenry, Gettysburg, etc., etc.) Great
Restaurants (Little Italy, Inner Harbor, Fells Point, etc. etc.)

The party could be a big crab feast!! Crabs and Beer (It doesn't get any
better than this)!! Eat till you drop! Of course you'll need a lesson in how
to pick a crab! Only Baltimore natives know how to do it properly.

Of course I live here so I'm bias to this area.

Gordon Frank
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Ames [ mailto:sames@NOVELL.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:08 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


Here are the results thus far in Word Format. (attached)

77 people have responded to the survey. If you still want to vote you
can do so at:


http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?30E0AXBYL6C4KR4TGAFRJTBK



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Excellent choice!
Of course, I too am bias living here.

Welcome to Bawlmer, Hon!


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank, Gordon M. [mailto:Gordon.Frank@JHUAPL.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:16 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


Have you been to Baltimore?

I think it would make an excellent RUG 2004 Conference Site.

Steamed Crabs are worth the trip!!! Crab Cakes!!! Camden Yards!!! History
all around!!! (Washington, Fort McHenry, Gettysburg, etc., etc.) Great
Restaurants (Little Italy, Inner Harbor, Fells Point, etc. etc.)

The party could be a big crab feast!! Crabs and Beer (It doesn't get any
better than this)!! Eat till you drop! Of course you'll need a lesson in how
to pick a crab! Only Baltimore natives know how to do it properly.

Of course I live here so I'm bias to this area.

Gordon Frank
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Ames [mailto:sames@NOVELL.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:08 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


Here are the results thus far in Word Format. (attached)

77 people have responded to the survey. If you still want to vote you
can do so at:


http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?30E0AXBYL6C4KR4TGAFRJTBK



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I had gone there on training and while there had the chance to go to Camden Yards, it was incredible. If only the Yankees had that stadium and prices. Don't leave out the Inner Harbor, particularly Phillips ( great food ) and all the historical sites. Not to mention a chance to see the nation's capital. Granted my choices would be NYC, SF, Balt in that order, but Baltimore does have alot going for it and like NYC and SF is serviced by 2 airports. FYI, I am willing to offer a class on crab pickin.

Thomas Altamore
Remedy Developer
Montefiore Medical Center
111 East 210th Street
Bronx, N.Y. 10467
Office: 718-920-5689
718-920-6118

>>> Rhonda.Marie.McCarthy@WELLSFARGO.COM 04/22/03 11:13AM >>>
Excellent choice!
Of course, I too am bias living here.

Welcome to Bawlmer, Hon!


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank, Gordon M. [mailto:Gordon.Frank@JHUAPL.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:16 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


Have you been to Baltimore?

I think it would make an excellent RUG 2004 Conference Site.

Steamed Crabs are worth the trip!!! Crab Cakes!!! Camden Yards!!! History
all around!!! (Washington, Fort McHenry, Gettysburg, etc., etc.) Great
Restaurants (Little Italy, Inner Harbor, Fells Point, etc. etc.)

The party could be a big crab feast!! Crabs and Beer (It doesn't get any
better than this)!! Eat till you drop! Of course you'll need a lesson in how
to pick a crab! Only Baltimore natives know how to do it properly.

Of course I live here so I'm bias to this area.

Gordon Frank
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Ames [mailto:sames@NOVELL.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:08 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2004 Location Survey Results


Here are the results thus far in Word Format. (attached)

77 people have responded to the survey. If you still want to vote you
can do so at:


http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?30E0AXBYL6C4KR4TGAFRJTBK



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