**
She looks good to protect Kuwait from the Iraqis!!! Kiddin... Saddam might take a liking to her... :-)

Joe DeSouza,
CyberMAK Information Systems
Kuwait.

Quote of the month:
You see things that are and say, "Why?" but I dream things that never were and say, "Why not?!!"

-------Original Message-------

From: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2002 07:44:49 PM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


I didn't say it's remedy, I'm talking about my grand-mother ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Rosenborg
[ mailto:michael.rosenborg@FORENINGSSPARBANKEN.SE]
Sent: 26 September 2002 14:10
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

Hey!
Thats not Remedy, that?s Mrs. Peregrine! *grin*
//Michael


Elrefaey, Ashraf wrote:

> **
> Mark,
>
>
>
> Why don't you take a look yourself, worth every penny:
>
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/refaey/grandma.jpg
>
>
>
> C'mon guys, I want the visitors counter screaming :-)))
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Blankenship [ mailto:mark.blankenship@VISTAIT.COM]
> Sent: 26 September 2002 13:36
> To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
> Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!
>
> **
> Is she cute? ;)
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [ mailto:ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM] On Behalf Of Elrefaey, Ashraf
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:46 AM
> To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
> Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!
>
> **
>
> Barry,
>
> Peregrine offered over two hundred millions on top of remedy's
> actual market price at that time, I would sell my grand-mother
> for that much money :-)))
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ashraf Elrefaey
> Remedy Developer
> Group IT
>
> COLT TELECOMUNICATIONS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Lindstrom [ mailto:barry@LFGBEAR.COM ]
> Sent: 26 September 2002 01:53
> To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
> Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!
>
>
> **
>
> You know folks, the Remedy Executives that sold us out in the
> first place
> are the ones to blame. The LAST RUG clearly demonstrated that
> we were
> being sold out, but so many of us were caught up in the glitz
> of 5.0 that
> we didn't pay attention.
>
> If Peregrine had been able to perpetuate their accounting
> shell games,
> Remedy would now be nothing more than an overpriced "product
> line" in
> Pergrine's catalog.
>
> So now it's an overpriced "product line" at BMC, in a
> faltering economy
> that has every CIO questioning the long term viability of a
> product that
> has had three sets of corporate governance in less than a
> year, big deal.
>
> In six months, when BMC accounting is called into question, we
> won't have
> to worry about buying Remedy licensing or support, one of us
> will be able
> to buy the code and brand name and turn it into shareware.
>
>
>
> *************************************************************************************
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**
OK Ashraf, you opened the door with your first email, now you've steadied the crosshairs dead-center.
So-----

"Yes, from the picture on your home page, I see the family resemblance."


Dave Crandall <><
Web Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Elrefaey, Ashraf [mailto:Ashraf.Elrefaey@COLT-TELECOM.COM]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:28 AM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

I didn't say it's remedy, I'm talking about my grand-mother ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Rosenborg
[ mailto:michael.rosenborg@FORENINGSSPARBANKEN.SE]
Sent: 26 September 2002 14:10
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

Hey!
Thats not Remedy, that?s Mrs. Peregrine! *grin*
//Michael


Elrefaey, Ashraf wrote:

> **
> Mark,
>
>
>
> Why don't you take a look yourself, worth every penny:
>
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/refaey/grandma.jpg
>
>
>
> C'mon guys, I want the visitors counter screaming :-)))
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Blankenship [ mailto:mark.blankenship@VISTAIT.COM]
> Sent: 26 September 2002 13:36
> To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
> Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!
>
> **
> Is she cute? ;)
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [ mailto:ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM] On Behalf Of Elrefaey, Ashraf
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:46 AM
> To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
> Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!
>
> **
>
> Barry,
>
> Peregrine offered over two hundred millions on top of remedy's
> actual market price at that time, I would sell my grand-mother
> for that much money :-)))
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ashraf Elrefaey
> Remedy Developer
> Group IT
>
> COLT TELECOMUNICATIONS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Lindstrom [ mailto:barry@LFGBEAR.COM ]
> Sent: 26 September 2002 01:53
> To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
> Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!
>
>
> **
>
> You know folks, the Remedy Executives that sold us out in the
> first place
> are the ones to blame. The LAST RUG clearly demonstrated that
> we were
> being sold out, but so many of us were caught up in the glitz
> of 5.0 that
> we didn't pay attention.
>
> If Peregrine had been able to perpetuate their accounting
> shell games,
> Remedy would now be nothing more than an overpriced "product
> line" in
> Pergrine's catalog.
>
> So now it's an overpriced "product line" at BMC, in a
> faltering economy
> that has every CIO questioning the long term viability of a
> product that
> has had three sets of corporate governance in less than a
> year, big deal.
>
> In six months, when BMC accounting is called into question, we
> won't have
> to worry about buying Remedy licensing or support, one of us
> will be able
> to buy the code and brand name and turn it into shareware.
>
>
>
> *************************************************************************************
> COLT Telecommunications
> Registered in England No. 2452736
> Registered Office: Bishopsgate Court, 4 Norton Folgate, London
> E1 6DQ
> Tel. +44 20 7390 3900
>
> This message is subject to and does not create or vary any
> contractual
> relationship between COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or
> affiliates ("COLT") and you. Internet communications are not
> secure
> and therefore COLT does not accept legal responsibility for the
> contents of this message. Any view or opinions expressed are
> those of
> the author. The message is intended for the addressee only and its
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**
So,

What's the bid Ashraf for me to take her off your hands????? (I'm thinkin 6 figures at least).

Warren

Warren R. Baltimore II
Senior Systems Analyst
Information Systems
The Ohio State University Medical Center
1375 Perry St.
Battelle 13-1-125
Columbus, OH 43201
614-293-2315
baltimore-1@medctr.osu.edu

>>> Ashraf.Elrefaey@COLT-TELECOM.COM 9/26/2002 8:56:37 AM >>>
**
Mark,

Why don't you take a look yourself, worth every penny:

http://www.geocities.com/refaey/grandma.jpg

C'mon guys, I want the visitors counter screaming :-)))

Cheers,
Ash

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Blankenship [mailto:mark.blankenship@VISTAIT.COM]
Sent: 26 September 2002 13:36
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**
Is she cute? ;)


Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM]On Behalf Of Elrefaey, Ashraf
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:46 AM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

Barry,

Peregrine offered over two hundred millions on top of remedy's actual market price at that time, I would sell my grand-mother for that much money :-)))

Best regards,

Ashraf Elrefaey
Remedy Developer
Group IT

COLT TELECOMUNICATIONS

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Lindstrom [ mailto:barry@LFGBEAR.COM]
Sent: 26 September 2002 01:53
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

You know folks, the Remedy Executives that sold us out in the first place
are the ones to blame. The LAST RUG clearly demonstrated that we were
being sold out, but so many of us were caught up in the glitz of 5.0 that
we didn't pay attention.

If Peregrine had been able to perpetuate their accounting shell games,
Remedy would now be nothing more than an overpriced "product line" in
Pergrine's catalog.

So now it's an overpriced "product line" at BMC, in a faltering economy
that has every CIO questioning the long term viability of a product that
has had three sets of corporate governance in less than a year, big deal.

In six months, when BMC accounting is called into question, we won't have
to worry about buying Remedy licensing or support, one of us will be able
to buy the code and brand name and turn it into shareware.



*************************************************************************************
COLT Telecommunications
Registered in England No. 2452736
Registered Office: Bishopsgate Court, 4 Norton Folgate, London E1 6DQ
Tel. +44 20 7390 3900

This message is subject to and does not create or vary any contractual
relationship between COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or
affiliates ("COLT") and you. Internet communications are not secure
and therefore COLT does not accept legal responsibility for the
contents of this message. Any view or opinions expressed are those of
the author. The message is intended for the addressee only and its
contents and any attached files are strictly confidential. If you have
received it in error, please telephone the number above. Thank you.
*************************************************************************************

**
So,

What's the bid Ashraf for me to take her off your hands????? (I'm thinkin 6 figures at least).

Warren

Warren R. Baltimore II
Senior Systems Analyst
Information Systems
The Ohio State University Medical Center
1375 Perry St.
Battelle 13-1-125
Columbus, OH 43201
614-293-2315
baltimore-1@medctr.osu.edu

>>> Ashraf.Elrefaey@COLT-TELECOM.COM 9/26/2002 8:56:37 AM >>>
**
Mark,

Why don't you take a look yourself, worth every penny:

http://www.geocities.com/refaey/grandma.jpg

C'mon guys, I want the visitors counter screaming :-)))

Cheers,
Ash

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Blankenship [mailto:mark.blankenship@VISTAIT.COM]
Sent: 26 September 2002 13:36
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**
Is she cute? ;)


Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM]On Behalf Of Elrefaey, Ashraf
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:46 AM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

Barry,

Peregrine offered over two hundred millions on top of remedy's actual market price at that time, I would sell my grand-mother for that much money :-)))

Best regards,

Ashraf Elrefaey
Remedy Developer
Group IT

COLT TELECOMUNICATIONS

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Lindstrom [ mailto:barry@LFGBEAR.COM]
Sent: 26 September 2002 01:53
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

You know folks, the Remedy Executives that sold us out in the first place
are the ones to blame. The LAST RUG clearly demonstrated that we were
being sold out, but so many of us were caught up in the glitz of 5.0 that
we didn't pay attention.

If Peregrine had been able to perpetuate their accounting shell games,
Remedy would now be nothing more than an overpriced "product line" in
Pergrine's catalog.

So now it's an overpriced "product line" at BMC, in a faltering economy
that has every CIO questioning the long term viability of a product that
has had three sets of corporate governance in less than a year, big deal.

In six months, when BMC accounting is called into question, we won't have
to worry about buying Remedy licensing or support, one of us will be able
to buy the code and brand name and turn it into shareware.



*************************************************************************************
COLT Telecommunications
Registered in England No. 2452736
Registered Office: Bishopsgate Court, 4 Norton Folgate, London E1 6DQ
Tel. +44 20 7390 3900

This message is subject to and does not create or vary any contractual
relationship between COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or
affiliates ("COLT") and you. Internet communications are not secure
and therefore COLT does not accept legal responsibility for the
contents of this message. Any view or opinions expressed are those of
the author. The message is intended for the addressee only and its
contents and any attached files are strictly confidential. If you have
received it in error, please telephone the number above. Thank you.
*************************************************************************************

**

Remember too that Remedy was having trouble at the time. It's stock dipped
(if I remember correctly, about 50%), and it couldn't hold on to its sales
staff.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christie, Garron [mailto:gchrist@SANDIA.GOV]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:24 PM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

I don't think that Remedy Executives had a choice! Remedy was a publicly
traded company and with the price that Peregrine was offering - $1Billion+,
the Remedy Executives probably didn't have much of a say. The Board of
Directors had to do what looked best for the stockholders, which was to
sell. Or, they could have been facing stockholder ire and possible charges
of mismanagement worse than yours!

But sometimes, as with the Peregrine deal, a chocolate covering can hide a
big ball of le peu!!



-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Lindstrom [mailto:barry@LFGBEAR.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:53 PM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!


**

You know folks, the Remedy Executives that sold us out in the first place
are the ones to blame. The LAST RUG clearly demonstrated that we were
being sold out, but so many of us were caught up in the glitz of 5.0 that
we didn't pay attention.

If Peregrine had been able to perpetuate their accounting shell games,
Remedy would now be nothing more than an overpriced "product line" in
Pergrine's catalog.

So now it's an overpriced "product line" at BMC, in a faltering economy
that has every CIO questioning the long term viability of a product that
has had three sets of corporate governance in less than a year, big deal.

In six months, when BMC accounting is called into question, we won't have
to worry about buying Remedy licensing or support, one of us will be able
to buy the code and brand name and turn it into shareware.



To UNSUBSCRIBE, email the message "unsubscribe arslist" to:
listserv@arslist.org
You may also control your subscription options, including UNSUBSCRIBE, at
www.ARSLIST.org



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**

Remedy's stock was among many at the time that dipped but it was over
$32 a share at the time of the sale which was higher than Peregrine's at
the time. It didn't though drop 50% it was much less than that.

Anyway we all know that the industry all around is in flux due to
corporate exec mismanagement (i.e Homestore.com...).

I have been clueing in many of my friends to the abundance of wealth to
be acquired in running an Alpaca Ranch. You know exactly from which end
they spit and which end they........
;-)

Basia


O'Hara, Jim wrote:

>**
>
>Remember too that Remedy was having trouble at the time. It's stock dipped
>(if I remember correctly, about 50%), and it couldn't hold on to its sales
>staff.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christie, Garron [mailto:gchrist@SANDIA.GOV]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:24 PM
>To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
>Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!
>
>
>**
>
>I don't think that Remedy Executives had a choice! Remedy was a publicly
>traded company and with the price that Peregrine was offering - $1Billion+,
>the Remedy Executives probably didn't have much of a say. The Board of
>Directors had to do what looked best for the stockholders, which was to
>sell. Or, they could have been facing stockholder ire and possible charges
>of mismanagement worse than yours!
>
>But sometimes, as with the Peregrine deal, a chocolate covering can hide a
>big ball of le peu!!
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barry Lindstrom [mailto:barry@LFGBEAR.COM]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:53 PM
>To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.QMXS.COM
>Subject: Re: All who LOVE Remedy stand up and hollar!
>
>
>**
>
>You know folks, the Remedy Executives that sold us out in the first place
>are the ones to blame. The LAST RUG clearly demonstrated that we were
>being sold out, but so many of us were caught up in the glitz of 5.0 that
>we didn't pay attention.
>
>If Peregrine had been able to perpetuate their accounting shell games,
>Remedy would now be nothing more than an overpriced "product line" in
>Pergrine's catalog.
>
>So now it's an overpriced "product line" at BMC, in a faltering economy
>that has every CIO questioning the long term viability of a product that
>has had three sets of corporate governance in less than a year, big deal.
>
>In six months, when BMC accounting is called into question, we won't have
>to worry about buying Remedy licensing or support, one of us will be able
>to buy the code and brand name and turn it into shareware.
>
>
>
>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email the message "unsubscribe arslist" to:
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>
>
>