I have a quick question. What is the total number of users a system has.
We use a lot of floating licenses and I think that maybe we should find
another way to go about this. We have a user record for every single person
in the company. Currently this makes for about 50k+ user records. Does
anybody have more?

Thanks in advance.

Brian

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There was a thread just last week about how many floating lics are
necessary. You can e-mail me directly if that doesn't help.
50,000 employees is a huge, huge company. I can't think of too many places
with a user db that size. There is no way each record should have a License
Type of Floating (regardless of how many actual floating lics you have).
You need to explain what you mean a bit better.

Later
Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Goralczyk [mailto:Brian.Goralczyk@VERIZONWIRELESS.COM]
Sent: December 31, 2001 9:29 AM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
Subject: User Question


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I have a quick question. What is the total number of users a system has.
We use a lot of floating licenses and I think that maybe we should find
another way to go about this. We have a user record for every single person
in the company. Currently this makes for about 50k+ user records. Does
anybody have more?

Thanks in advance.

Brian

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ESP has a utility to track usage (I wound up writing my own, however),
and you can check license usage in admin.

Hope that helps-

P

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Brian Goralczyk wrote:

> **
>
> I have a quick question. What is the total number of users a system has.
> We use a lot of floating licenses and I think that maybe we should find
> another way to go about this. We have a user record for every single person
> in the company. Currently this makes for about 50k+ user records. Does
> anybody have more?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Brian
>
> _____________________________
>
>
>

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I know about those. My question was more on the line of, is our usage of
the user schema excessive?

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter J. Milanese [mailto:peterm@whitemahon.org]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:17 AM
To: Brian Goralczyk
Cc: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
Subject: Re: User Question



ESP has a utility to track usage (I wound up writing my own, however),
and you can check license usage in admin.

Hope that helps-

P

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Brian Goralczyk wrote:

> **
>
> I have a quick question. What is the total number of users a system has.
> We use a lot of floating licenses and I think that maybe we should find
> another way to go about this. We have a user record for every single
person
> in the company. Currently this makes for about 50k+ user records. Does
> anybody have more?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Brian
>
>
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>

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>

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Shouldn't matter much. So long as indexing is logical.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 Brian.Goralczyk@VerizonWireless.com wrote:

> I know about those. My question was more on the line of, is our usage of
> the user schema excessive?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter J. Milanese [mailto:peterm@whitemahon.org]
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:17 AM
> To: Brian Goralczyk
> Cc: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
> Subject: Re: User Question
>
>
>
> ESP has a utility to track usage (I wound up writing my own, however),
> and you can check license usage in admin.
>
> Hope that helps-
>
> P
>
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Brian Goralczyk wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> > I have a quick question. What is the total number of users a system has.
> > We use a lot of floating licenses and I think that maybe we should find
> > another way to go about this. We have a user record for every single
> person
> > in the company. Currently this makes for about 50k+ user records. Does
> > anybody have more?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> ________________
> _____________
> >
>
> > You may also control your subscription options, including UNSUBSCRIBE, at
> www.ARSLIST.org
> >
>

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Brian:

It depends on what the users are doing. I have a relatively large number of read only users, a handful of floating users and about 20 users with fixed licenses. I do recommend creating a user account for each individual with appropriate 'grouping' of the user based upon functionality.
I do question having 50K accounts, as this number seems excessively large, even for your company. It sounds like accounts were created for folks who will never access the system or do so infrequently. A policy should be placed into effect that if an account is not used during a specified time period, then the account should be terminated. Also it appears that accounts exist for folks who no longer work for your company. The company policy should also address this. It may appear to be a serious hassle, and might be in the beginning, as you will have to create a system to track user logins/logouts and account usage. Our experience is once the system is in place, it becomes easy to maintain and to update accounts.

James Mckenzie

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From: Brian Goralczyk Brian.Goralczyk@VERIZONWIRELESS.COM
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:28:42 -0500
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
Subject: User Question


**

I have a quick question. What is the total number of users a system has.
We use a lot of floating licenses and I think that maybe we should find
another way to go about this. We have a user record for every single person
in the company. Currently this makes for about 50k+ user records. Does
anybody have more?

Thanks in advance.

Brian

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Peter:

This is an interesting comment. Why would indexing help with the User schema? I think that Brian was asking if he had too many users in the form. I'm of the opinion that there are accounts that are not used and this can create a bunch of problems, many are security related. We purge accounts if they are not used for a specified time period, unless it is not politically correct to do so.

James Mckenzie

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From: Peter J. Milanese peterm@WHITEMAHON.ORG
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:34:48 -0500
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
Subject: Re: User Question


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Shouldn't matter much. So long as indexing is logical.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 Brian.Goralczyk@VerizonWireless.com wrote:

> I know about those. My question was more on the line of, is our usage of
> the user schema excessive?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter J. Milanese [mailto:peterm@whitemahon.org]
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:17 AM
> To: Brian Goralczyk
> Cc: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
> Subject: Re: User Question
>
>
>
> ESP has a utility to track usage (I wound up writing my own, however),
> and you can check license usage in admin.
>
> Hope that helps-
>
> P
>
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Brian Goralczyk wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> > I have a quick question. What is the total number of users a system has.
> > We use a lot of floating licenses and I think that maybe we should find
> > another way to go about this. We have a user record for every single
> person
> > in the company. Currently this makes for about 50k+ user records. Does
> > anybody have more?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> ________________
> _____________
> >
>
> > You may also control your subscription options, including UNSUBSCRIBE, at
> www.ARSLIST.org
> >
>

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Brian,
I have to agree with Jim. As a Remedy Admin I make sure that only those
individuals who have reason to use Remedy actually have an account. As
employees leave the company I make sure that their account is deleted from
the system. Having records of users who are no longer with the company or do
not use Remedy seems like a waste of database space. HTH.

Roger A. Nall
Project Manager
Remedy Administrator
Covista Communication
888-890-7600x7446
rnall@covista.com


-----Original Message-----
From: jjmckenzie51@earthlink.net [mailto:jjmckenzie51@EARTHLINK.NET]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:47 AM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
Subject: Re: User Question


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Brian:

It depends on what the users are doing. I have a relatively large number of
read only users, a handful of floating users and about 20 users with fixed
licenses. I do recommend creating a user account for each individual with
appropriate 'grouping' of the user based upon functionality.
I do question having 50K accounts, as this number seems excessively large,
even for your company. It sounds like accounts were created for folks who
will never access the system or do so infrequently. A policy should be
placed into effect that if an account is not used during a specified time
period, then the account should be terminated. Also it appears that
accounts exist for folks who no longer work for your company. The company
policy should also address this. It may appear to be a serious hassle, and
might be in the beginning, as you will have to create a system to track user
logins/logouts and account usage. Our experience is once the system is in
place, it becomes easy to maintain and to update accounts.

James Mckenzie

Original Message:
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From: Brian Goralczyk Brian.Goralczyk@VERIZONWIRELESS.COM
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:28:42 -0500
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
Subject: User Question


**

I have a quick question. What is the total number of users a system has.
We use a lot of floating licenses and I think that maybe we should find
another way to go about this. We have a user record for every single person
in the company. Currently this makes for about 50k+ user records. Does
anybody have more?

Thanks in advance.

Brian

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