Hello,
We want to install another Remedy server and wanted to know what
everyone's feelings were on Nt vs Aix is Nt that much slower? 35% slower?
Any feedback will help, thank you


-T

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracey Smith"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:20 AM
Subject: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


> **
>
> Hello,
> We want to install another Remedy server and wanted to know what
> everyone's feelings were on Nt vs Aix is Nt that much slower? 35% slower?
> Any feedback will help, thank you
>
>
> -T
>
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Yet another server OS discussion, yeah I love them....


A server OS is as good as your administrator is. A well maintained NT server
beat a badly maintain UNIX server with no problem.

--
Jarl Groneng
jarl@nextra.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM]On Behalf Of Tracey Smith
> Sent: 24. juli 2001 14:20
> To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
> Subject: Nt server Vs. Aix server?
>
>
> **
>
> Hello,
> We want to install another Remedy server and wanted to know what
> everyone's feelings were on Nt vs Aix is Nt that much slower? 35% slower?
> Any feedback will help, thank you
>
>
> -T
>
> _____
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I have run into some installation problems on AIX.

If you install multiple applications like Help Desk and Change Management or
Asset Management, you have to jump through some hoops to get them installed.
There is a supplemental install guide that describes this though.

I have not been able to gauge the speed differential yet.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracey Smith"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:20 AM
Subject: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


> **
>
> Hello,
> We want to install another Remedy server and wanted to know what
> everyone's feelings were on Nt vs Aix is Nt that much slower? 35% slower?
> Any feedback will help, thank you
>
>
> -T
>
> _____
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
>
>
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The OS choice you make should be based on the hardware that you have and the
ability of the staff there to support it. If your company has twenty NT
admins and zero Unix guys, well... And the reverse is true. The general
goal, of course, is to provide the end users with a stable (or close
approximation thereof), supported Remedy platform to work on. Speed is
something that should be considered after support and hardware. I mean,
after all, it does one no good to have the fastest server on the planet and
then run out of memory, or fry a drive with nobody to replace it.

If you are interested in reading up on the topic, and have some time, here
are a few (somewhat slanted) sources which may help.

http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch/
http://news.cnet.com/news/0,10000,0-1003-200-335947,00.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/990126-000022.html

HTH,

Will



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jarl Groneng"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


> **
>
> Yet another server OS discussion, yeah I love them....
>
>
> A server OS is as good as your administrator is. A well maintained NT
server
> beat a badly maintain UNIX server with no problem.
>
> --
> Jarl Groneng
> jarl@nextra.com
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM]On Behalf Of Tracey Smith
> > Sent: 24. juli 2001 14:20
> > To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
> > Subject: Nt server Vs. Aix server?
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> > Hello,
> > We want to install another Remedy server and wanted to know what
> > everyone's feelings were on Nt vs Aix is Nt that much slower? 35%
slower?
> > Any feedback will help, thank you
> >
> >
> > -T
> >
> > _____
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
> >
> > ______
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
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well and also Win2000 Adv. Server is more stable than Unix and does not have
a Memory Leak as many Unix Boxes have..
Easyer to mentain and the Hardware as well as the OS System is cheaper...
:-)
If You really want a blowing Box try this:
Compaq ProLiant 8000 with 8 CPUs 4 GB of RAM and SCSI HDs via Fire wire
Uses 7.5 CPUs to run the OS
and than try ether MSSQL 2000 or Oracle 8.16
Look at the Price and buy a second as Backup and You still cheaper than on a
Sun Box...

Thanks to all of You!

Markus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jarl Groneng"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


> **
>
> Yet another server OS discussion, yeah I love them....
>
>
> A server OS is as good as your administrator is. A well maintained NT
server
> beat a badly maintain UNIX server with no problem.
>
> --
> Jarl Groneng
> jarl@nextra.com
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM]On Behalf Of Tracey Smith
> > Sent: 24. juli 2001 14:20
> > To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
> > Subject: Nt server Vs. Aix server?
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> > Hello,
> > We want to install another Remedy server and wanted to know what
> > everyone's feelings were on Nt vs Aix is Nt that much slower? 35%
slower?
> > Any feedback will help, thank you
> >
> >
> > -T
> >
> > _____
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
> >
> > ______
> > _______________________
> >
> >
> > You may also control your subscription options, including
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> >
> >
>
>
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UNIX will be much more stable, scalable and available. If you're doing
a small number of transactions NT can handle this.

If you're doing larger transaction volumes or need 24X7 availability choose
UNIX.

Prices on Sun boxes now are under $1000.00 for rack mountable servers so
cost
is no longer an issue. Sun is a more desirable platform from a support,
development
& available applications stand-point. If you must choose AIX, that will
work.

Support is clearly important. Call us if you need UNIX help with your ARS
instances. We work both NT and UNIX and have customers who use both.

I do agree with Will re: If you have no UNIX Admins you may want to choose
NT.

Dave Wilmot
President and CEO
Rapid Technologies, Inc.
"The e-Integration People"
email: dave.wilmot@raptek.com
web: www.raptek.com
(303) 948-1014, ext 101

----- Original Message -----
From: "William H. Du Chene"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


> **
>
> The OS choice you make should be based on the hardware that you have and
the
> ability of the staff there to support it. If your company has twenty NT
> admins and zero Unix guys, well... And the reverse is true. The general
> goal, of course, is to provide the end users with a stable (or close
> approximation thereof), supported Remedy platform to work on. Speed is
> something that should be considered after support and hardware. I mean,
> after all, it does one no good to have the fastest server on the planet
and
> then run out of memory, or fry a drive with nobody to replace it.
>
> If you are interested in reading up on the topic, and have some time, here
> are a few (somewhat slanted) sources which may help.
>
> http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch/
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0,10000,0-1003-200-335947,00.html
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/990126-000022.html
>
> HTH,
>
> Will
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jarl Groneng"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?
>
>
> > **
> >
> > Yet another server OS discussion, yeah I love them....
> >
> >
> > A server OS is as good as your administrator is. A well maintained NT
> server
> > beat a badly maintain UNIX server with no problem.
> >
> > --
> > Jarl Groneng
> > jarl@nextra.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > > [mailto:ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM]On Behalf Of Tracey Smith
> > > Sent: 24. juli 2001 14:20
> > > To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
> > > Subject: Nt server Vs. Aix server?
> > >
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > We want to install another Remedy server and wanted to know what
> > > everyone's feelings were on Nt vs Aix is Nt that much slower? 35%
> slower?
> > > Any feedback will help, thank you
> > >
> > >
> > > -T
> > >
> > > _____
> > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
> http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
> > >
> > > ______
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> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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at
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---- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Wilmot"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


> **
>
> UNIX will be much more stable, scalable and available. If you're doing
> a small number of transactions NT can handle this.
>
> If you're doing larger transaction volumes or need 24X7 availability
> choose UNIX.

I'm not agree with this. On RUG (think it was 1999) a company had a
presentation running Remedy on WinNT on Compaq servers, they handled
ten-thousands of tickets each day.

--
Jarl Groneng
jarl@nextra.com

(for n'th time I had said to myselves not to get involved in NT/UNIX and
Oracle/MSSQL idscussions)

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I agree with Jarl!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jarl Groneng [mailto:rapid@ONLINE.NO]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:22 AM
To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


**

---- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Wilmot"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


> **
>
> UNIX will be much more stable, scalable and available. If you're doing
> a small number of transactions NT can handle this.
>
> If you're doing larger transaction volumes or need 24X7 availability
> choose UNIX.

I'm not agree with this. On RUG (think it was 1999) a company had a
presentation running Remedy on WinNT on Compaq servers, they handled
ten-thousands of tickets each day.

--
Jarl Groneng
jarl@nextra.com

(for n'th time I had said to myselves not to get involved in NT/UNIX and
Oracle/MSSQL idscussions)

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Well we have a Global Customer who choosed Win 2000 and Compaq and they are
very very happy ant not only because of the lower Hardware Price.

they do a follow the Sun Option and expecting a couple 1000 Tics a day...

So... Im sorry but Metenance Fees is way cheaper on NT... belive it or not
its also very very stable!
I belive W2K is far the best MS ever did....... I agree it has a lot of UNIX
bulid in.. :-)



Thanks to all of You!

Markus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyrone Dee"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?


> **
>
> I agree with Jarl!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jarl Groneng [mailto:rapid@ONLINE.NO]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:22 AM
> To: ARSLIST@LISTSERV.VISTAIT.COM
> Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?
>
>
> **
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Wilmot"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Nt server Vs. Aix server?
>
>
> > **
> >
> > UNIX will be much more stable, scalable and available. If you're doing
> > a small number of transactions NT can handle this.
> >
> > If you're doing larger transaction volumes or need 24X7 availability
> > choose UNIX.
>
> I'm not agree with this. On RUG (think it was 1999) a company had a
> presentation running Remedy on WinNT on Compaq servers, they handled
> ten-thousands of tickets each day.
>
> --
> Jarl Groneng
> jarl@nextra.com
>
> (for n'th time I had said to myselves not to get involved in NT/UNIX and
> Oracle/MSSQL idscussions)
>
>
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>
>
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