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#133595 - 03/15/06 05:40 AM drop down menu
aakkineni Offline
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Posts: 44
how to add a new option in middle of an excisiting drop drop list


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#133596 - 03/16/06 06:06 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
anjali Offline
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Registered: 12/24/05
Posts: 10
Go to the option above or below the position where you want to add the
new option. Change the alias and value and click the 'Add After' or 'Add
Before' Button.
Hope this is what you are looking for.

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From: Shaun Pollock
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 11:10 AM
> how to add a new option in middle of an excisiting drop drop list
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#133597 - 03/16/06 06:12 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
aakkineni Offline
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The method you suggested will change the ID for the options below in the
drop down list. Actually i need to add the option such away that it should
not disturb the other options ID.


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#133598 - 03/16/06 06:26 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
anjali Offline
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ID as in Enumerated value ??? Enumerated value will always change if you
are adding an option in the middle/start of dropdown.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 11:42 AM
> The method you suggested will change the ID for the options below in the
> drop down list. Actually i need to add the option such away that it should
> not disturb the other options ID.
>
>
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#133599 - 03/16/06 06:35 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
aakkineni Offline
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For Example:

Status is a drop down list field
having attributes:

Value Alias Value ID
open open 0
Fixed Fixed 1
Closed Closed 2

i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.

Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..


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#133600 - 03/15/06 07:43 PM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
anjali Offline
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Registered: 12/24/05
Posts: 10
This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133601 - 03/15/06 08:34 PM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
michiel_beijen663 Offline
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Registered: 03/09/05
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** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133602 - 03/15/06 10:59 PM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
bihler_arslist Offline
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Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 10
Hi,

maybe archgsel.exe is what you are looking for. Check out the download
section of Remedy Supportweb. I don't know whether it still works on 6.x
servers. For me it worked just fine in the 4.5.x and 5.x days.

Regards,
Ablert


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#133603 - 03/16/06 02:14 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
sheider162 Offline
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Registered: 05/01/05
Posts: 226
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Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133604 - 03/16/06 02:31 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
rick cook Offline
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Registered: 07/03/01
Posts: 2984
**
One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133605 - 03/16/06 03:17 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
frederick w grooms67 Offline
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Registered: 06/12/01
Posts: 930
**
If you have to add a selection in the middle of a list you may want to check out the Remedy utility of archgsel (available in the Development Community Downloads section of Remedy's web site)

Fred



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133606 - 03/16/06 04:38 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
james_mckenzie1 Offline
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Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 133
**
Rick and Fred:

Does the old archgsel program still work with ARS 6.x? If so, I would recommend using this program to re-order your status selections. And this program can be used on any selection field (drop-down or radio button) not just the status field.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133607 - 03/16/06 04:45 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
rick cook Offline
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Registered: 07/03/01
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Don't know - I just tell people not to do that, and there's usually a better way of getting what they say they want the re-ordering for.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Rick and Fred:

Does the old archgsel program still work with ARS 6.x? If so, I would recommend using this program to re-order your status selections. And this program can be used on any selection field (drop-down or radio button) not just the status field.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133608 - 03/16/06 04:46 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
jdsouza Offline
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Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 64
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Shaun,

If there is workflow on that field, and you do not know what bits of workflow are referencing run if or set field if kind of qualifications, you could break a lot of things if you did what you wanted to...

For example if there is a filter or AL or Escalation that has a qualification 'Status' > "Fixed" that qualification after performing the change you want to will change to 'Status' > "Resolved"

There in itself you see the potential of you breaking your system.

So value-wise though it is possible to implement that change, if you have workflow on that field, you would need to revisit that workflow after performing that change and modify that workflow accordingly...

To change the values after making that change, I would go to the DB and run the following 2 update statements in the order written below:

update T set C7 = 3 where C7 = 2;
update T set C7 = 2 where C7 = 1;

If the field is the core C7 field, I would run these additional statements..:

update H set T3 = T2, U3 = U2;
update H set T2 = NULL, U2 = NULL;

(Note: Some databases handle the NULL keyword differently syntax-wise so find out how your database is supposed to handle it.. I would advise you to test these last 2 statements on a test form before you hit them on production, the syntax might not be 100% accurate as I just wrote here what I would think at the top of my mind..)

I think that should do the trick so long as you modify all the workflow related to that Drop down field.. Easy way to find all that workflow is to set up a search database and find the Related Workflow on that field...

I'm glad though they have considered changing the basic design behind the enum fields in V7 wherein we could choose our own DB values - this would be very beneficial for us who develop custom apps especially at sites where the requirement is likely to change drastically almost overnight sometimes!

Regards

Joe D'Souza,
Remedy Developer / Consultant,
Shyle Networks,
New Jersey.
Home: +1.732.416.8045

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Shaun Pollock
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


For Example:

Status is a drop down list field having attributes:

Value Alias Value ID
open open 0
Fixed Fixed 1
Closed Closed 2

i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.

Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
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#133609 - 03/16/06 04:52 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
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James,

Does this program take care of the status-history too? Considering that insertion of a value would cause the number of columns in the Status-History H table to increase by 2 (time and user).. I wouldn't think it would be nice if it didn't take care of that...

Regards

Joe D'Souza,
Remedy Developer / Consultant,
Shyle Networks,
New Jersey.
Home: +1.732.416.8045

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Rick and Fred:

Does the old archgsel program still work with ARS 6.x? If so, I would recommend using this program to re-order your status selections. And this program can be used on any selection field (drop-down or radio button) not just the status field.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133610 - 03/16/06 04:53 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
james_mckenzie1 Offline
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Posts: 133
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Rick:

What to not reorder the statuses or what? I don't care why they are doing what they are doing. That is 'not my business'. If they want to make New come after Closed, something is wrong, but if the boss wants to add a Pending status between Work in Progress and Resolved and I can do it, I state that this is possible. I've learnt in this long life that the word impossible belongs in the dictionary and that the difficult just takes longer.

As an example of why I'm glad that someone thought up this program: I had to remove 16 unused and not needed statuses. Why they were added was due to a custom escalation system that was devised for a Program Manager Office. The PM decided, after fielding the product, that they did not want their own Remedy server and the Escalation code was removed but not the statuses. Guess who spend about two days removing them?

Also, if you are a programmer, you know that the value of No and False is 0. Yes and True are 1. Had to reorder several fields so that this was the order so that a program developed by an external agent would function properly.

These are just two reasons for the existance of that program.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:45 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Don't know - I just tell people not to do that, and there's usually a better way of getting what they say they want the re-ordering for.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Rick and Fred:

Does the old archgsel program still work with ARS 6.x? If so, I would recommend using this program to re-order your status selections. And this program can be used on any selection field (drop-down or radio button) not just the status field.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133611 - 03/16/06 05:00 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
james_mckenzie1 Offline
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Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 133
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Anjali:

This will not update any existing workflow to account for the new item. To do this you should use the archgsel utility which can be downloaded from the Developer Community.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Anjali Gosain
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:07 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


Go to the option above or below the position where you want to add the
new option. Change the alias and value and click the 'Add After' or 'Add
Before' Button.
Hope this is what you are looking for.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 11:10 AM
> how to add a new option in middle of an excisiting drop drop list
>
>
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#133612 - 03/16/06 05:02 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
james_mckenzie1 Offline
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Posts: 133
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Joe:

It also fixes the Status History form too. I had to use it to remove 16 unused statuses.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:53 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**

James,

Does this program take care of the status-history too? Considering that insertion of a value would cause the number of columns in the Status-History H table to increase by 2 (time and user).. I wouldn't think it would be nice if it didn't take care of that...

Regards


Joe D'Souza,
Remedy Developer / Consultant,
Shyle Networks,
New Jersey.
Home: +1.732.416.8045

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Rick and Fred:

Does the old archgsel program still work with ARS 6.x? If so, I would recommend using this program to re-order your status selections. And this program can be used on any selection field (drop-down or radio button) not just the status field.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133613 - 03/16/06 05:44 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
jdsouza Offline
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Awesome! And to come to think of it I was recommending a manual way - it works too had done it before but why reinvent the wheel right!

Regards

Joe D'Souza,
Remedy Developer / Consultant,
Shyle Networks,
New Jersey.
Cell: +1.732.416.8045

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:02 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


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Joe:

It also fixes the Status History form too. I had to use it to remove 16 unused statuses.

James McKenzie

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#133614 - 03/16/06 05:53 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
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I guess I haven't run into the level of screwed-up-ness in applications that you have (16 UNUSED status values? YOWZA, that's bad design!). I'm not saying it's impossible to reorder status, obviously it's not - never has been. I do make it crystal clear to customers that the level of effort in doing so should cause them to look at ALL viable alternatives to that before deciding that's the best course of action. I have only seen one time in 9 years where they decided (and I agreed) that reording or inserting new status values was the best way to accomplish what they needed.

At any rate, starting with v7, making the status field more configurable is a two-edged sword; on one hand, it's easier to manipulate the order of values, on the other hand, it makes it easier to justify doing so.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:53 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Rick:

What to not reorder the statuses or what? I don't care why they are doing what they are doing. That is 'not my business'. If they want to make New come after Closed, something is wrong, but if the boss wants to add a Pending status between Work in Progress and Resolved and I can do it, I state that this is possible. I've learnt in this long life that the word impossible belongs in the dictionary and that the difficult just takes longer.

As an example of why I'm glad that someone thought up this program: I had to remove 16 unused and not needed statuses. Why they were added was due to a custom escalation system that was devised for a Program Manager Office. The PM decided, after fielding the product, that they did not want their own Remedy server and the Escalation code was removed but not the statuses. Guess who spend about two days removing them?

Also, if you are a programmer, you know that the value of No and False is 0. Yes and True are 1. Had to reorder several fields so that this was the order so that a program developed by an external agent would function properly.

These are just two reasons for the existance of that program.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:45 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Don't know - I just tell people not to do that, and there's usually a better way of getting what they say they want the re-ordering for.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Rick and Fred:

Does the old archgsel program still work with ARS 6.x? If so, I would recommend using this program to re-order your status selections. And this program can be used on any selection field (drop-down or radio button) not just the status field.

James McKenzie


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


**
Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.
On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:

This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>
>


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#133615 - 03/16/06 06:01 AM Re: drop down menu [Re: mdsouza]
james_mckenzie1 Offline
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Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 133
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Rick:

As I said, it was a customized Escalation system that was developed before the advent of DSO (it was that old.) The PM customer actually had a Remedy server, but they took it off line after determining that maintaining it cost too much for the value they received from it. All of the escalation workflow was archived and removed. It was then that the additional 16 statuses were determined to be excess and they needed to be removed. Before this, those statuses were very much needed and used. In other words, the original design was good but it needed a serious review and overhaul.

James McKenzie

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:53 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


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I guess I haven't run into the level of screwed-up-ness in applications that you have (16 UNUSED status values? YOWZA, that's bad design!). I'm not saying it's impossible to reorder status, obviously it's not - never has been. I do make it crystal clear to customers that the level of effort in doing so should cause them to look at ALL viable alternatives to that before deciding that's the best course of action. I have only seen one time in 9 years where they decided (and I agreed) that reording or inserting new status values was the best way to accomplish what they needed.

At any rate, starting with v7, making the status field more configurable is a two-edged sword; on one hand, it's easier to manipulate the order of values, on the other hand, it makes it easier to justify doing so.

Rick




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:53 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


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Rick:

What to not reorder the statuses or what? I don't care why they are doing what they are doing. That is 'not my business'. If they want to make New come after Closed, something is wrong, but if the boss wants to add a Pending status between Work in Progress and Resolved and I can do it, I state that this is possible. I've learnt in this long life that the word impossible belongs in the dictionary and that the difficult just takes longer.

As an example of why I'm glad that someone thought up this program: I had to remove 16 unused and not needed statuses. Why they were added was due to a custom escalation system that was devised for a Program Manager Office. The PM decided, after fielding the product, that they did not want their own Remedy server and the Escalation code was removed but not the statuses. Guess who spend about two days removing them?

Also, if you are a programmer, you know that the value of No and False is 0. Yes and True are 1. Had to reorder several fields so that this was the order so that a program developed by an external agent would function properly.

These are just two reasons for the existance of that program.

James McKenzie

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:45 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


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Don't know - I just tell people not to do that, and there's usually a better way of getting what they say they want the re-ordering for.

Rick




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


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Rick and Fred:

Does the old archgsel program still work with ARS 6.x? If so, I would recommend using this program to re-order your status selections. And this program can be used on any selection field (drop-down or radio button) not just the status field.

James McKenzie

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


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One of the v7.0 enhancements is that we will be able to give enum fields non-consecutive numbers, so that we can insert values later.

Rick




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


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Shaun,

Something to keep in mind and also check throughout workflow is, some qualifications use < or >. For example, 'Status' > "Fixed", which would include "Closed". If you added another option to the end of the list then 'Status' > "Fixed" would also include "Resolved".

Since in this example, "Resolved" is normally less than "Closed" you may need to update the SQL tables/views directly after inserting "Resolved" before "Closed"... replacing values of 2 (Closed) to 3 (the new value of Closed).


Stephen




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:35 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: drop down menu


** One other solution is to hide the status field and create a new charachter field (display only) with a menu attached. You can sort the menu on what ever you like.

On display of the request you set the display only field to the value of the status field and on submit and modify you'll populate the status field with the value of the DO field.

This way you can order the field in the way YOU want without affecting the order in the enum field.

You can also use this method to 'hide' existing enum values without affecting the numbering.

Regards,

Michiel


On 3/16/06, Anjali Gosain wrote:
This ID is generated by Remedy and is based on position of option in the
drop-down list. Since this a system generated value, it cannot be
changed. So adding the option in between will change the ID of 'Closed'
We faced a similar problem once and ended up modifying the workflow.
I would suggest adding the option at the end of the list. If that is not
feasible u might have to modify the workflow.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Shaun Pollock < aakkineni@REDIFFMAIL.COM>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re:drop down menu
Date: 3/16/2006 12:05 PM
> For Example:
>
> Status is a drop down list field
> having attributes:
>
> Value Alias Value ID
> open open 0
> Fixed Fixed 1
> Closed Closed 2
>
> i need to add Resolved in between the fixed and closed. As the option
> closed has ID 2 after adding this option will move to 3 . this will make
> impact for the excisting data. so i need to add the option Resolved must
> have ID 3 and should not disturb the ID of the option Closed.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions provided for my previous queries..
>
>
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