#132886 - 03/05/06 08:59 PM
Announcement php_arapi - alpha
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Hi listers, We are happy to announce availability of the alpha release of phparapi. It is hosted on Sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-arapi Currently it supports CreateEntry, GetEntry, SetEntry and GetListEntryswithFields for your basic data fetch-and-set needs.
The library is using the excellent RTL from Dan Hardy. Also... stay tuned for an updated version of the eleGantt-visualisation script recoded using phparapi.
Best wishes from a snowy Stockholm Jens and Anders core*ar
---- http://www.corear.com
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#132887 - 03/05/06 09:54 PM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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Very cool....I love new API's...makes the tool easier to use with more environments
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Anders Wilhelm Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Announcement phparapi - alpha
Hi listers, We are happy to announce availability of the alpha release of phparapi. It is hosted on Sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-arapi Currently it supports CreateEntry, GetEntry, SetEntry and GetListEntryswithFields for your basic data fetch-and-set needs.
The library is using the excellent RTL from Dan Hardy. Also... stay tuned for an updated version of the eleGantt-visualisation script recoded using phparapi.
Best wishes from a snowy Stockholm Jens and Anders core*ar
---- http://www.corear.com
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#132888 - 03/05/06 11:19 PM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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Very cool - I will check it out as soon as I get some time. I'm glad you found RTL to be useful in this development, and hope that it delivered as promised!
FYI, I will probably "release" the 1.0 stable version of RTL soon. It's currently beta, but I believe it is stable. I've received some good feedback (i.e. it is actually being used), and there are a few minor (and "mostly harmless") warnings produced when compiling under GCC. It has been successfully tested on both Linux and Solaris now though. Before releasing it, I intend to eliminate the warnings GCC has identified, except of course for those that are produced by the AR System header files themselves.
Regards, Dan Hardy http://www.ambientsoftware.com/
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of L. J. Head Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:55 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha
Very cool....I love new API's...makes the tool easier to use with more environments
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Anders Wilhelm Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Announcement phparapi - alpha
Hi listers, We are happy to announce availability of the alpha release of phparapi. It is hosted on Sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-arapi Currently it supports CreateEntry, GetEntry, SetEntry and GetListEntryswithFields for your basic data fetch-and-set needs.
The library is using the excellent RTL from Dan Hardy. Also... stay tuned for an updated version of the eleGantt-visualisation script recoded using phparapi.
Best wishes from a snowy Stockholm Jens and Anders core*ar
---- http://www.corear.com
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#132889 - 03/06/06 05:04 AM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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Registered: 03/22/05
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The wiki page includes accurate references to this project as well as Dan's projects. Changed the links to reference the proper home page for the project.
I look forward to playing with a php-gannt module that does not rely on the ARODBC driver ;-)
The wiki is available at http://www.arswiki.org Accounts are free
Axton Grams
On 3/6/06, Dan Hardy wrote: > Very cool - I will check it out as soon as I get some time. I'm glad > you found RTL to be useful in this development, and hope that it > delivered as promised! > > FYI, I will probably "release" the 1.0 stable version of RTL soon. It's > currently beta, but I believe it is stable. I've received some good > feedback (i.e. it is actually being used), and there are a few minor > (and "mostly harmless") warnings produced when compiling under GCC. It > has been successfully tested on both Linux and Solaris now though. > Before releasing it, I intend to eliminate the warnings GCC has > identified, except of course for those that are produced by the AR > System header files themselves. > > Regards, > Dan Hardy > http://www.ambientsoftware.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of L. J. Head > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:55 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha > > Very cool....I love new API's...makes the tool easier to use with more > environments > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Anders Wilhelm > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:00 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Announcement phparapi - alpha > > Hi listers, > We are happy to announce availability of the alpha release of phparapi. > It is hosted on Sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-arapi > Currently it supports CreateEntry, GetEntry, SetEntry and > GetListEntryswithFields for your basic data fetch-and-set needs. > > > The library is using the excellent RTL from Dan Hardy. Also... stay > tuned > for an > updated version of the eleGantt-visualisation script recoded using > phparapi. > > > Best wishes from a snowy Stockholm > Jens and Anders > core*ar > > > > ---- > http://www.corear.com > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#132890 - 03/07/06 02:11 AM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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Registered: 05/01/05
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Dan:
As a fellow programmer, I will caution against attempting to remove each and every error generated by gcc (and I'm doing this here because I want other programmers to see it.) I work with OpenOffice.org as a 'hobby' and am assisting the Mac OS X porting team. I routinely built it and there are many gcc warnings, both on 3.3 and 4.0.1 (aka 4.1). These are a fault of gcc, not the header files I use (Boost and STLport are two sources of header files.) Apparently, gcc still has a problem with pointer casting and this is a source of a majority of the warnings. Also, I will caution (again) that if the program is not broken, works as designed (and not the way that BMC designs things) then don't mess with it! You may spend hours and hours trying to work around your fix, only to find that the original code was just fine.
And I will look at RTL, but probably not use it at my present position.
James McKenzie
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Dan Hardy Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:19 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha
Very cool - I will check it out as soon as I get some time. I'm glad you found RTL to be useful in this development, and hope that it delivered as promised!
FYI, I will probably "release" the 1.0 stable version of RTL soon. It's currently beta, but I believe it is stable. I've received some good feedback (i.e. it is actually being used), and there are a few minor (and "mostly harmless") warnings produced when compiling under GCC. It has been successfully tested on both Linux and Solaris now though. Before releasing it, I intend to eliminate the warnings GCC has identified, except of course for those that are produced by the AR System header files themselves.
Regards, Dan Hardy http://www.ambientsoftware.com/
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of L. J. Head Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:55 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha
Very cool....I love new API's...makes the tool easier to use with more environments
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Anders Wilhelm Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Announcement phparapi - alpha
Hi listers, We are happy to announce availability of the alpha release of phparapi. It is hosted on Sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-arapi Currently it supports CreateEntry, GetEntry, SetEntry and GetListEntryswithFields for your basic data fetch-and-set needs.
The library is using the excellent RTL from Dan Hardy. Also... stay tuned for an updated version of the eleGantt-visualisation script recoded using phparapi.
Best wishes from a snowy Stockholm Jens and Anders core*ar
---- http://www.corear.com
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#132891 - 03/07/06 02:26 AM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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The errors using gcc/g++ on linux should probably be addressed even though they are harmless if for no other reason that to keep the code clean. These are types of errors that were generated using the -Wall checks (which are really generated from -Wunused and -Wreturn-type):
Were things like: ./include/Server.h:605: warning: unused variable 'fieldList'
./include/FieldLimit.h:102: warning: 'class rtl::FieldLimit::NullLimitImpl' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
Axton Grams
On 3/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 wrote: > ** > > Dan: > > As a fellow programmer, I will caution against attempting to remove each and > every error generated by gcc (and I'm doing this here because I want other > programmers to see it.) I work with OpenOffice.org as a 'hobby' and am > assisting the Mac OS X porting team. I routinely built it and there are > many gcc warnings, both on 3.3 and 4.0.1 (aka 4.1). These are a fault of > gcc, not the header files I use (Boost and STLport are two sources of header > files.) Apparently, gcc still has a problem with pointer casting and this > is a source of a majority of the warnings. Also, I will caution (again) > that if the program is not broken, works as designed (and not the way that > BMC designs things) then don't mess with it! You may spend hours and hours > trying to work around your fix, only to find that the original code was just > fine. > > And I will look at RTL, but probably not use it at my present position. > > James McKenzie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Dan Hardy > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:19 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha > > > > > > Very cool - I will check it out as soon as I get some time. I'm glad > you found RTL to be useful in this development, and hope that it > delivered as promised! > > FYI, I will probably "release" the 1.0 stable version of RTL soon. It's > currently beta, but I believe it is stable. I've received some good > feedback (i.e. it is actually being used), and there are a few minor > (and "mostly harmless") warnings produced when compiling under GCC. It > has been successfully tested on both Linux and Solaris now though. > Before releasing it, I intend to eliminate the warnings GCC has > identified, except of course for those that are produced by the AR > System header files themselves. > > Regards, > Dan Hardy > http://www.ambientsoftware.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of L. J. Head > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:55 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha > > Very cool....I love new API's...makes the tool easier to use with more > environments > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Anders Wilhelm > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:00 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Announcement phparapi - alpha > > Hi listers, > We are happy to announce availability of the alpha release of phparapi. > It is hosted on Sourceforge, > http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-arapi > Currently it supports CreateEntry, GetEntry, SetEntry and > GetListEntryswithFields for your basic data fetch-and-set needs. > > > The library is using the excellent RTL from Dan Hardy. Also... stay > tuned > for an > updated version of the eleGantt-visualisation script recoded using > phparapi. > > > Best wishes from a snowy Stockholm > Jens and Anders > core*ar > > > > ---- > http://www.corear.com > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it
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#132892 - 03/07/06 02:29 AM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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Registered: 05/01/05
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Axton:
I see these errors and they should be cleaned up. Unused variables can cause problems and the non-virtual destructor is usually an oversight on the part of the programmer.
My other statements do stand as I tried to clean up the OpenOffice.org code and ended up making a mess (and wasting about a day doing so.) However, it was very educational.
James McKenzie
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:26 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha
The errors using gcc/g++ on linux should probably be addressed even though they are harmless if for no other reason that to keep the code clean. These are types of errors that were generated using the -Wall checks (which are really generated from -Wunused and -Wreturn-type):
Were things like: ./include/Server.h:605: warning: unused variable 'fieldList'
./include/FieldLimit.h:102: warning: 'class rtl::FieldLimit::NullLimitImpl' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
Axton Grams
On 3/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 wrote: > ** > > Dan: > > As a fellow programmer, I will caution against attempting to remove each and > every error generated by gcc (and I'm doing this here because I want other > programmers to see it.) I work with OpenOffice.org as a 'hobby' and am > assisting the Mac OS X porting team. I routinely built it and there are > many gcc warnings, both on 3.3 and 4.0.1 (aka 4.1). These are a fault of > gcc, not the header files I use (Boost and STLport are two sources of header > files.) Apparently, gcc still has a problem with pointer casting and this > is a source of a majority of the warnings. Also, I will caution (again) > that if the program is not broken, works as designed (and not the way that > BMC designs things) then don't mess with it! You may spend hours and hours > trying to work around your fix, only to find that the original code was just > fine. > > And I will look at RTL, but probably not use it at my present position. > > James McKenzie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Dan Hardy > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:19 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha > > > > > > Very cool - I will check it out as soon as I get some time. I'm glad > you found RTL to be useful in this development, and hope that it > delivered as promised! > > FYI, I will probably "release" the 1.0 stable version of RTL soon. It's > currently beta, but I believe it is stable. I've received some good > feedback (i.e. it is actually being used), and there are a few minor > (and "mostly harmless") warnings produced when compiling under GCC. It > has been successfully tested on both Linux and Solaris now though. > Before releasing it, I intend to eliminate the warnings GCC has > identified, except of course for those that are produced by the AR > System header files themselves. > > Regards, > Dan Hardy > http://www.ambientsoftware.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of L. J. Head > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:55 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha > > Very cool....I love new API's...makes the tool easier to use with more > environments > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Anders Wilhelm > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:00 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Announcement phparapi - alpha > > Hi listers, > We are happy to announce availability of the alpha release of phparapi. > It is hosted on Sourceforge, > http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-arapi > Currently it supports CreateEntry, GetEntry, SetEntry and > GetListEntryswithFields for your basic data fetch-and-set needs. > > > The library is using the excellent RTL from Dan Hardy. Also... stay > tuned > for an > updated version of the eleGantt-visualisation script recoded using > phparapi. > > > Best wishes from a snowy Stockholm > Jens and Anders > core*ar > > > > ---- > http://www.corear.com > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it
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#132893 - 03/07/06 02:40 AM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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Registered: 02/16/06
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I found these warnings to be persisitent, and I already passed them on to Dan. The first 2 could depend on the warning level and version of the compiler. I have not found any of them to cause any problem at runtime. The warnings don't look good since they are encountered often during compilitation, due to the nature of templates being held in header files. solaris 2.8 (8) and gcc version 3.2.2. ListT.h:79: warning: base class `class rtl::AssignableT ' should be explicitly initialized in the copy constructor
/>ListT.h:118: warning: `rtl::ListT::constiterator' is implicitly a typename
FieldLimit.h:168: warning: `class rtl::FieldLimit::CharLimitImpl' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 Sent: 07 March 2006 14:29 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha
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Axton:
I see these errors and they should be cleaned up. Unused variables can cause problems and the non-virtual destructor is usually an oversight on the part of the programmer.
My other statements do stand as I tried to clean up the OpenOffice.org code and ended up making a mess (and wasting about a day doing so.) However, it was very educational.
James McKenzie
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#132894 - 03/07/06 04:32 AM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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I should be able to get to these today. I did verify that the first is harmless (because the base class rtl::AssignableT's default constructor and copy constructor are identical). I'm not sure exactly what the second warning below implies, but it certainly looks harmless. The third was an oversight. Dan From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Maureen Korda Sent: Tue 3/7/2006 6:40 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha I found these warnings to be persisitent, and I already passed them on to Dan. The first 2 could depend on the warning level and version of the compiler. I have not found any of them to cause any problem at runtime. The warnings don't look good since they are encountered often during compilitation, due to the nature of templates being held in header files. solaris 2.8 (8) and gcc version 3.2.2. ListT.h:79: warning: base class `class rtl::AssignableT ' should be explicitly initialized in the copy constructor
/>ListT.h:118: warning: `rtl::ListT::constiterator' is implicitly a typename
FieldLimit.h:168: warning: `class rtl::FieldLimit::CharLimitImpl' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 Sent: 07 March 2006 14:29 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha
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Axton:
I see these errors and they should be cleaned up. Unused variables can cause problems and the non-virtual destructor is usually an oversight on the part of the programmer.
My other statements do stand as I tried to clean up the OpenOffice.org code and ended up making a mess (and wasting about a day doing so.) However, it was very educational.
James McKenzie
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#132895 - 03/07/06 04:56 AM
Re: Announcement php_arapi - alpha
[Re: alclark]
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** Dan: Also it appears that the version of gcc is very old. I will check my Solaris 9 systems here, but I think gcc should at least be 3.3, if not 4.0. Are you testing with all of these? James McKenzie -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Dan Hardy Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:33 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha I should be able to get to these today. I did verify that the first is harmless (because the base class rtl::AssignableT's default constructor and copy constructor are identical). I'm not sure exactly what the second warning below implies, but it certainly looks harmless. The third was an oversight. Dan From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Maureen Korda Sent: Tue 3/7/2006 6:40 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha I found these warnings to be persisitent, and I already passed them on to Dan. The first 2 could depend on the warning level and version of the compiler. I have not found any of them to cause any problem at runtime. The warnings don't look good since they are encountered often during compilitation, due to the nature of templates being held in header files. solaris 2.8 (8) and gcc version 3.2.2. ListT.h:79: warning: base class `class rtl::AssignableT ' should be explicitly initialized in the copy constructor
/>ListT.h:118: warning: `rtl::ListT::constiterator' is implicitly a typename
FieldLimit.h:168: warning: `class rtl::FieldLimit::CharLimitImpl' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 Sent: 07 March 2006 14:29 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Announcement phparapi - alpha
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Axton:
I see these errors and they should be cleaned up. Unused variables can cause problems and the non-virtual destructor is usually an oversight on the part of the programmer.
My other statements do stand as I tried to clean up the OpenOffice.org code and ended up making a mess (and wasting about a day doing so.) However, it was very educational.
James McKenzie
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