** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005 for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows Explorer-like method of navigation.

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Joe,

Was there an update for release date on ARS v7 ?

Thanks,
Susan


On 2/17/06, Joe Caropepe wrote:

** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005 for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows Explorer-like method of navigation.

Continued at: http://www.caropepe.com/home/

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Not July, Joe. April 30 is the date I heard last week, direct from BMC. That's a target, so it's possible that it might still slip, but I got the impression they felt pretty comfortable with it.


Rick


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** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005 for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows Explorer-like method of navigation.

Continued at: http://www.caropepe.com/home/

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Not July, Joe. April 30 is the date I heard last week, direct from BMC. That's a target, so it's possible that it might still slip, but I got the impression they felt pretty comfortable with it.


Rick


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** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005 for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows Explorer-like method of navigation.

Continued at: http://www.caropepe.com/home/

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I also heard from bmc source as in April.

-Anthony

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Not July, Joe. April 30 is the date I heard last week, direct from BMC.
That's a target, so it's possible that it might still slip, but I got
the impression they felt pretty comfortable with it.


Rick


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** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest
Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in
Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the
second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit
features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new
data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005
-thor/#more-6> for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA
application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows
Explorer-like method of navigation.

Continued at: http://www.caropepe.com/home/

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I think it will be specific to ARS 7, which means ITSM 7, too.

Rick



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Thanks for the information...

Has anyone heard whether CMDB 2.0 will be compatible with ITSM 6.x applications or will it require use of ITSM v7.0?

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I don't think any are being completely eliminated, but they will no longer all be installed by default. My understanding is that CMDB 2 will install with a basic set of common - REALLY common - classes, and have additional sets of classes available to import such as all of the SAP and Java/J2RE whatever, that is just wasted space and overhead on our system under CMDB 1.1. That allows BMC to expand the library of OTB-defined classes for compatibility with future upgrades, but lets us pick the ones we need a la carte for installation. At some point there is supposed to be a new white paper dealing with the class changes, probably at the point when 2.0 is released. Someone correct me if I have gotten this wrong.
Christopher Strauss, MSLS
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center
http://remedy.unt.edu/



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Thanks Rick.

Does anyone have a document containing a list of the specific classes that will be eliminated in 2.0?

We are currently architecting a CMDB and I'd rather not utilize classes that are targeted for removal.


Thanks,
Michael

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**
Confirm. Should be scaled back to about 60% of its present size. That will make extending the CDM easier with less risk of affecting performance, because of the smaller number of joins that will be in play. BMC will be providing a utility (probably not at release time, but soon after) to migrate from the present CMDB 1.x structure to the smaller 2.0 version.

Rick



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Can anyone confirm/deny the rumors that the Common Data Model used in CMDB 1.x will be greatly modified or scaled back in CMDB 2.0?

Does anyone have information (Visio diagrams, documentation, etc) on the CDM that will be utilized in CMDB 2.0?

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I also heard from bmc source as in April.

-Anthony

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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)

Not July, Joe. April 30 is the date I heard last week, direct from BMC.
That's a target, so it's possible that it might still slip, but I got
the impression they felt pretty comfortable with it.


Rick


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Joe
Caropepe
Sent: Fri 2/17/2006 4:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)




** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest
Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in
Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the
second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit
features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new
data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005
-thor/#more-6> for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA
application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows
Explorer-like method of navigation.

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Michael,

If BMC actually get the new Common Data Model right, then you would think that People will have to be included as Configuration Items in their own right which would mean re-architecting the whole SHR:People workflow that is integral to ITSM.

For that reason, I think CMDB 2 will require ITSM 7.

Cheers,
Matt




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Thanks for the information...

Has anyone heard whether CMDB 2.0 will be compatible with ITSM 6.x applications or will it require use of ITSM v7.0?

-----Original Message-----
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**
I don't think any are being completely eliminated, but they will no longer all be installed by default. My understanding is that CMDB 2 will install with a basic set of common - REALLY common - classes, and have additional sets of classes available to import such as all of the SAP and Java/J2RE whatever, that is just wasted space and overhead on our system under CMDB 1.1. That allows BMC to expand the library of OTB-defined classes for compatibility with future upgrades, but lets us pick the ones we need a la carte for installation. At some point there is supposed to be a new white paper dealing with the class changes, probably at the point when 2.0 is released. Someone correct me if I have gotten this wrong.
Christopher Strauss, MSLS
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center
http://remedy.unt.edu/



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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)


Thanks Rick.

Does anyone have a document containing a list of the specific classes that will be eliminated in 2.0?

We are currently architecting a CMDB and I'd rather not utilize classes that are targeted for removal.


Thanks,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 2/20/2006 12:11 PM
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**
Confirm. Should be scaled back to about 60% of its present size. That will make extending the CDM easier with less risk of affecting performance, because of the smaller number of joins that will be in play. BMC will be providing a utility (probably not at release time, but soon after) to migrate from the present CMDB 1.x structure to the smaller 2.0 version.

Rick



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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:53 AM
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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)


Can anyone confirm/deny the rumors that the Common Data Model used in CMDB 1.x will be greatly modified or scaled back in CMDB 2.0?

Does anyone have information (Visio diagrams, documentation, etc) on the CDM that will be utilized in CMDB 2.0?

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Sent: Mon 2/20/2006 5:33 AM
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I also heard from bmc source as in April.

-Anthony

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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)

Not July, Joe. April 30 is the date I heard last week, direct from BMC.
That's a target, so it's possible that it might still slip, but I got
the impression they felt pretty comfortable with it.


Rick


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** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest
Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in
Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the
second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit
features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new
data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005
-thor/#more-6> for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA
application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows
Explorer-like method of navigation.

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I think you're right, Matt. From what I can see, the ITSM 7 platform is WAY different than ITSM 6. I don't know what specifics I can share, so don't ask for any, but this is a completely re-defined application built around ITIL and the CMDB. Much more distributed and flexible. I like it.

Rick



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Michael,

If BMC actually get the new Common Data Model right, then you would think that People will have to be included as Configuration Items in their own right which would mean re-architecting the whole SHR:People workflow that is integral to ITSM.

For that reason, I think CMDB 2 will require ITSM 7.

Cheers,
Matt




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Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 7:52 AM
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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)


Thanks for the information...

Has anyone heard whether CMDB 2.0 will be compatible with ITSM 6.x applications or will it require use of ITSM v7.0?

-----Original Message-----
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**
I don't think any are being completely eliminated, but they will no longer all be installed by default. My understanding is that CMDB 2 will install with a basic set of common - REALLY common - classes, and have additional sets of classes available to import such as all of the SAP and Java/J2RE whatever, that is just wasted space and overhead on our system under CMDB 1.1. That allows BMC to expand the library of OTB-defined classes for compatibility with future upgrades, but lets us pick the ones we need a la carte for installation. At some point there is supposed to be a new white paper dealing with the class changes, probably at the point when 2.0 is released. Someone correct me if I have gotten this wrong.
Christopher Strauss, MSLS
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center
http://remedy.unt.edu/



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Thanks Rick.

Does anyone have a document containing a list of the specific classes that will be eliminated in 2.0?

We are currently architecting a CMDB and I'd rather not utilize classes that are targeted for removal.


Thanks,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Rick Cook
Sent: Mon 2/20/2006 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)


**
Confirm. Should be scaled back to about 60% of its present size. That will make extending the CDM easier with less risk of affecting performance, because of the smaller number of joins that will be in play. BMC will be providing a utility (probably not at release time, but soon after) to migrate from the present CMDB 1.x structure to the smaller 2.0 version.

Rick



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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:53 AM
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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)


Can anyone confirm/deny the rumors that the Common Data Model used in CMDB 1.x will be greatly modified or scaled back in CMDB 2.0?

Does anyone have information (Visio diagrams, documentation, etc) on the CDM that will be utilized in CMDB 2.0?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 2/20/2006 5:33 AM
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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)



I also heard from bmc source as in April.

-Anthony

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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)

Not July, Joe. April 30 is the date I heard last week, direct from BMC.
That's a target, so it's possible that it might still slip, but I got
the impression they felt pretty comfortable with it.


Rick


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** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest
Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in
Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the
second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit
features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new
data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005
-thor/#more-6> for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA
application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows
Explorer-like method of navigation.

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So.... the 465 Bazillion Dollar question is.... If I am about to do an upgrade from HD 4.04 and ARS 4.5.2 should I wait and move to 7? or go to 6.x as planned????

Claire "we ordered the new server last week" Sanford



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I think you're right, Matt. From what I can see, the ITSM 7 platform is WAY different than ITSM 6. I don't know what specifics I can share, so don't ask for any, but this is a completely re-defined application built around ITIL and the CMDB. Much more distributed and flexible. I like it.

Rick



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**
Michael,

If BMC actually get the new Common Data Model right, then you would think that People will have to be included as Configuration Items in their own right which would mean re-architecting the whole SHR:People workflow that is integral to ITSM.

For that reason, I think CMDB 2 will require ITSM 7.

Cheers,
Matt




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Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 7:52 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)


Thanks for the information...

Has anyone heard whether CMDB 2.0 will be compatible with ITSM 6.x applications or will it require use of ITSM v7.0?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 2/20/2006 2:13 PM
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**
I don't think any are being completely eliminated, but they will no longer all be installed by default. My understanding is that CMDB 2 will install with a basic set of common - REALLY common - classes, and have additional sets of classes available to import such as all of the SAP and Java/J2RE whatever, that is just wasted space and overhead on our system under CMDB 1.1. That allows BMC to expand the library of OTB-defined classes for compatibility with future upgrades, but lets us pick the ones we need a la carte for installation. At some point there is supposed to be a new white paper dealing with the class changes, probably at the point when 2.0 is released. Someone correct me if I have gotten this wrong.
Christopher Strauss, MSLS
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center
http://remedy.unt.edu/



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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)


Thanks Rick.

Does anyone have a document containing a list of the specific classes that will be eliminated in 2.0?

We are currently architecting a CMDB and I'd rather not utilize classes that are targeted for removal.


Thanks,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 2/20/2006 12:11 PM
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**
Confirm. Should be scaled back to about 60% of its present size. That will make extending the CDM easier with less risk of affecting performance, because of the smaller number of joins that will be in play. BMC will be providing a utility (probably not at release time, but soon after) to migrate from the present CMDB 1.x structure to the smaller 2.0 version.

Rick



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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:53 AM
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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)


Can anyone confirm/deny the rumors that the Common Data Model used in CMDB 1.x will be greatly modified or scaled back in CMDB 2.0?

Does anyone have information (Visio diagrams, documentation, etc) on the CDM that will be utilized in CMDB 2.0?

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Anthony K R
Sent: Mon 2/20/2006 5:33 AM
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Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)



I also heard from bmc source as in April.

-Anthony

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)

Not July, Joe. April 30 is the date I heard last week, direct from BMC.
That's a target, so it's possible that it might still slip, but I got
the impression they felt pretty comfortable with it.


Rick


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Caropepe
Sent: Fri 2/17/2006 4:13 PM
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Subject: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)




** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest
Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in
Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the
second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit
features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new
data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005
-thor/#more-6> for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA
application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows
Explorer-like method of navigation.

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Can anyone confirm/deny the rumors that the Common Data Model used in CMDB 1.x will be greatly modified or scaled back in CMDB 2.0?

Does anyone have information (Visio diagrams, documentation, etc) on the CDM that will be utilized in CMDB 2.0?

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Anthony K R
Sent: Mon 2/20/2006 5:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Cc:
Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)



I also heard from bmc source as in April.

-Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)

Not July, Joe. April 30 is the date I heard last week, direct from BMC.
That's a target, so it's possible that it might still slip, but I got
the impression they felt pretty comfortable with it.


Rick


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Joe
Caropepe
Sent: Fri 2/17/2006 4:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ARS 7.0 July Release? (NW RUG Meeting Notes)




** KIRKLAND, WA -- At the latest incarnation of the local Northwest
Remedy User's Group (RUG) held at the BMC Software offices today in
Kirkland, WA, BMC announced that it expects to release ITSM 7.0 in the
second quarter of this year. A number of ITSM 7.0 applications exhibit
features only available in AR System 7.0 (code named "thor").

The Change and Configuration Management application includes the new
data visualization fields I mentioned back in July 2005
-thor/#more-6> for an Outlook-style planning calendar, and the SLA
application used the new "tree" style table field for a Windows
Explorer-like method of navigation.

Continued at: http://www.caropepe.com/home/

Joe Caropepe
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