#130488 - 01/30/06 05:59 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** To those on the List and anyone at BMC, I think ARS is an excellent and powerful product. Yet, every product can be improved. Here is my quick list: 1. Full API support in the .Net API. In addition, with each example in the help guide both C# and VB.Net languages should be included. 2. A button for the $NULL$ keyword throughout the Admin Tool (ie. Run If qualification, Set Fields, etc.) - I use this keyword far more than any other. 3. A button for the $NULL$ keyword in the User Tool for Advanced Searches. 4. Save environment settings in Admin Tool and User Tool as they are changed instead of waiting until the user successfully logs out. Occasionally these programs do crash and any settings are lost. 5. Ability to setup the layout of the Admin Tool and press a button/select a menu option to write these settings to the AR System Administrative Preferences form right then. 6. Larger windows in Admin Tool for developing work flow (Active Links, Filters, Guides, etc.). I have dual 20" monitors and yet I frequently have to scroll or click the ellipsis button to see all the code or objects. 7. Quicker turn-around time for purchasing licenses. Once BMC receives the official request from our vendor it seems to take a very long time to receive the license keys. With almost every purchase our vendor (and sometimes me) has had to repeatedly contact BMC to find out when we would receive the license keys. 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool. 9. More granularity with installing server patches with the installer program. For example, there should be an option to *only* patch DLLs and other files and *not* update any forms, fields or work flow. 10. Support current version of Crystal Reports - at least with the current version of ARS and User Tool. Within 3 months after a new version of Crystal Reports is released [from Business Objects] BMC should endeavor to put out a new patch of the User Tool that supports it. BMC undoubtedly has access to beta and pre-release versions of Crystal Reports months before it is finally released to the public. This should provide ample time to patch the User Tool. 11. Support for current version of SQL Server. Version 2005 was released 3 months with beta versions available for over a year, yet no word on if/when it will be supported. Chances are that 99.9% of ARS would run fine as-is now. 12. Clarify in writing the exact licensing requirements with ARS on SQL Server. After many contacts with our vendor, and our vendor directly with BMC, there is no consensus on how to properly license SQL Server to run ARS. Is it by the number of threads, by number of Remedy users? This information should be posted on the SupportWeb. 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I have to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to search again due to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for over a year. It finally reached the point where I simply wrote a program that downloads every KB and stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries. 14. Add the IP address of users in log files. 15. Have the option to log to tables instead of text files. This could be a regular Remedy form a direct SQL table. This would provide increased ability to monitor and troubleshoot a system, would allow for filtering (ie. I only want to query for entries that I made between 2:00pm and 2:05pm), could take less time to debug and would allow for reporting. 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity. 17. Provide downloadable training modules and exercises on ARS and other Remedy products. These could be billed by module and/or annual subscription for a set of modules. Microsoft has one implementation that may work (https://www.microsoftelearning.com/default.aspx). 18. Display a message when user has Caps-Lock turned On at the User Tool login prompt. It is relatively easy for a user to get locked out of the network (when pass-through authentication is used). In some companies Remedy/network login IDs are numeric, therefore Caps-Lock could be On and the user may not be aware. 19. Create or help sponsor a Remedy Development Guide book. As far as I know there is no third-party design and development book available for the Remedy administrator or developer. This guide would include topics such as solving particular problems, integration with other Remedy modules, integration with external systems, API usage, best practices, etc. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130489 - 01/30/06 06:32 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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old hand
Registered: 03/22/05
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Technical Changes:
- Bit based checkbox field - SSO capable user tool - Multiple supported versions of Crystal Reports bundled in the user tool (could be a preference setting?) - Multiple supported versions of Crystal Reports capable with the Remedy ODBC driver - Rewrite the currency field functionality. Conceptually it's sound, but the concept didn't materialize as well as it could have. - Add a "(clear)" option to a character field menu field that is set to have the drop-down properties; make behavior consistent with the drop-down field type - Change oracle data-type used for attachment fields to BLOB instead of LONG RAW. LONG RAW was deprecated years ago and support will drop for it at some point; not to mention the fact it's a pain to work with - Allow the administrator to define whether or not to compress attachment data so that the data can be accessed by apps other than remedy from the db level. - Db related tuning/changes to allow better scalability of Remedy server (bind variables) and better intermingling of db environment for shared db servers. Nobody likes a resource hog on shared hardware. We are bound to x number of threads on our oracle server because of how remedy uses the db; and the memory consumption required because of the way it uses the db. - Ability to to correlated db connections to ars threads (thread logs or somewhere) - Ability to correlated sql sent to the db via one of the db connections to a specific Remedy user. This is needed for troubleshooting (could be incorporated into the sql logs) certain types of issues - Ability to incorporate some RDBMS concepts into ARS forms regarding referential integrity (PK/FK constraints, cascading deletes, etc.). I hate writing a series of filters to do this for an app that sits on top of a db but chooses not to use the db. - Ability to run clients on more platforms (admin, user, import). Did a good job of keeping the server flexible in it's architecture, but clients are bound to the M$ platform. - Ability to define default time for date/time fields (on a per field basis) instead of always defaulting to midnight. - Fix the licensing model. The current licensing model severly inhibits our support staff. Some support staff have two PCs on their destop where they run Remedy. They are now bound to only using one desktop for Remedy. Users accessing the mid-tier who have the user tool open are also subject to interference. It's too restrictive and inhibits ligitimate use of the product.
Axton
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#130490 - 01/30/06 06:44 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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journeyman
Registered: 03/11/04
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ARS Fixes I would like to see:
1. If you have an escalation that takes a lot of resources ... it seems to prevent all of the other escalations from running. This causes a problem if you are running a one time script and still need pages sent out in a timely manner.
2. Separate AREA stuff from arplugin. We have had problems with users not being able to log into remedy. We can't tell if it was the SLA, ARFPerl, Reporting, E-mail, ARDBC, etc. that caused the problem .... a restart of the plugin resolved the issue. But to me it is a fundamental flaw in the system ....
3. No one I know has ever gotten Remedy Developer Plus to work (out of about 7 remedy developers from 3 different companies).
4. Java API still has to use the native C libraries ... wish they would create a JAVA API that was not OS specific.
5. I still get complaints about not being able to customize table columns or do multi-sort by the users. This is especially useful for something like a "Console" view but obviously isn't needed for some tables ... But nice to know that ARS 7 is supposed to come out with some sort of Tree like view ....
6. A clock or "Age" field would be nice that would show you that you have 30 seconds ... 29 ... 28 before this thing pages the CEO and the world as you know it will come to an end :-)
7. The ability to search for Distinct records in a join form. Maybe some sort of "Distinct" checkbox for fields in the Join form. Sometimes you want a join to only return one record even though the ticket may be listed more than once because of the many to one relationship in the join.
9. Can you do a join in 6.x of two forms using the ODBC connector created by Remedy using Crystal Reports? As far as I know you still can't do it...
Thanks,
Sean
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:47 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
From a non-technical perspective.
I would love to Remedy use their own apps, performing an upgrade for each version; and in the process document the steps used to perform the upgrade and generate a white paper
I would love to see Remedy support the versions of ARS listed as supported; i.e., release bug fixes for those versions instead of giving the solution of upgrade to the latest version.
I would love to see Remedy upgrade to the latest version of mid-tier for their support site. They are using 5.0.1, which imho, is embarrasing and doesnt speak well of their boasted rearchitecture.
I would love to see an RFE process that actually works. The current process is like a black hole. You toss your request in, never to be heard of or seen again.
Technical 'I would likes' forthcoming.
Axton
On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it
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#130491 - 01/30/06 04:31 AM
What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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journeyman
Registered: 06/12/01
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** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130492 - 01/30/06 04:47 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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old hand
Registered: 03/22/05
Posts: 738
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From a non-technical perspective.
I would love to Remedy use their own apps, performing an upgrade for each version; and in the process document the steps used to perform the upgrade and generate a white paper
I would love to see Remedy support the versions of ARS listed as supported; i.e., release bug fixes for those versions instead of giving the solution of upgrade to the latest version.
I would love to see Remedy upgrade to the latest version of mid-tier for their support site. They are using 5.0.1, which imho, is embarrasing and doesnt speak well of their boasted rearchitecture.
I would love to see an RFE process that actually works. The current process is like a black hole. You toss your request in, never to be heard of or seen again.
Technical 'I would likes' forthcoming.
Axton
On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it
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#130493 - 01/30/06 06:54 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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newbie
Registered: 03/09/05
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Another: - Ability to define join forms of the type 'union' (goes back to my 'leverage the db' annoyance from an earlier post) Axton On 1/30/06, Axton wrote: > Some more: > > - Ability to run Crystal Enterprise server on a platform other than > M$. Currently bound to M$ because the odbc driver provided by Remedy > only works on M$. > - Ability to use the approval server, that is now given "free" with > the arserver without having to require every user in the system that > could potentially approve a request to have a fixed or floating > license. It's nice to have it free, but doesn't do me much good if I > can't use it. I think we were better off when it was license on a per > form basis. > > Axton > > > On 1/30/06, Sean Garrison wrote: > > ARS Fixes I would like to see: > > > > 1. If you have an escalation that takes a lot of resources ... it seems to > > prevent all of the other escalations from running. This causes a problem if > > you are running a one time script and still need pages sent out in a timely > > manner. > > > > 2. Separate AREA stuff from arplugin. We have had problems with users not > > being able to log into remedy. We can't tell if it was the SLA, ARFPerl, > > Reporting, E-mail, ARDBC, etc. that caused the problem .... a restart of > > the plugin resolved the issue. But to me it is a fundamental flaw in the > > system .... > > > > 3. No one I know has ever gotten Remedy Developer Plus to work (out of > > about 7 remedy developers from 3 different companies). > > > > 4. Java API still has to use the native C libraries ... wish they would > > create a JAVA API that was not OS specific. > > > > 5. I still get complaints about not being able to customize table columns > > or do multi-sort by the users. This is especially useful for something like > > a "Console" view but obviously isn't needed for some tables ... But nice > > to know that ARS 7 is supposed to come out with some sort of Tree like view > > .... > > > > 6. A clock or "Age" field would be nice that would show you that you have > > 30 seconds ... 29 ... 28 before this thing pages the CEO and the world as > > you know it will come to an end :-) > > > > 7. The ability to search for Distinct records in a join form. Maybe some > > sort of "Distinct" checkbox for fields in the Join form. Sometimes you want > > a join to only return one record even though the ticket may be listed more > > than once because of the many to one relationship in the join. > > > > 9. Can you do a join in 6.x of two forms using the ODBC connector created > > by Remedy using Crystal Reports? As far as I know you still can't do it... > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sean > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton > > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:47 AM > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > From a non-technical perspective. > > > > I would love to Remedy use their own apps, performing an upgrade for > > each version; and in the process document the steps used to perform > > the upgrade and generate a white paper > > > > I would love to see Remedy support the versions of ARS listed as > > supported; i.e., release bug fixes for those versions instead of > > giving the solution of upgrade to the latest version. > > > > I would love to see Remedy upgrade to the latest version of mid-tier > > for their support site. They are using 5.0.1, which imho, is > > embarrasing and doesnt speak well of their boasted rearchitecture. > > > > I would love to see an RFE process that actually works. The current > > process is like a black hole. You toss your request in, never to be > > heard of or seen again. > > > > Technical 'I would likes' forthcoming. > > > > Axton > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > > ** > > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in > > such > > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally > > missing. > > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > > > require a lot of development. > > > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > > > functionality. > > > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > > > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > > > submitted with HTML in it > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > >
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#130494 - 01/30/06 06:53 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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old hand
Registered: 03/22/05
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Some more:
- Ability to run Crystal Enterprise server on a platform other than M$. Currently bound to M$ because the odbc driver provided by Remedy only works on M$. - Ability to use the approval server, that is now given "free" with the arserver without having to require every user in the system that could potentially approve a request to have a fixed or floating license. It's nice to have it free, but doesn't do me much good if I can't use it. I think we were better off when it was license on a per form basis.
Axton
On 1/30/06, Sean Garrison wrote: > ARS Fixes I would like to see: > > 1. If you have an escalation that takes a lot of resources ... it seems to > prevent all of the other escalations from running. This causes a problem if > you are running a one time script and still need pages sent out in a timely > manner. > > 2. Separate AREA stuff from arplugin. We have had problems with users not > being able to log into remedy. We can't tell if it was the SLA, ARFPerl, > Reporting, E-mail, ARDBC, etc. that caused the problem .... a restart of > the plugin resolved the issue. But to me it is a fundamental flaw in the > system .... > > 3. No one I know has ever gotten Remedy Developer Plus to work (out of > about 7 remedy developers from 3 different companies). > > 4. Java API still has to use the native C libraries ... wish they would > create a JAVA API that was not OS specific. > > 5. I still get complaints about not being able to customize table columns > or do multi-sort by the users. This is especially useful for something like > a "Console" view but obviously isn't needed for some tables ... But nice > to know that ARS 7 is supposed to come out with some sort of Tree like view > .... > > 6. A clock or "Age" field would be nice that would show you that you have > 30 seconds ... 29 ... 28 before this thing pages the CEO and the world as > you know it will come to an end :-) > > 7. The ability to search for Distinct records in a join form. Maybe some > sort of "Distinct" checkbox for fields in the Join form. Sometimes you want > a join to only return one record even though the ticket may be listed more > than once because of the many to one relationship in the join. > > 9. Can you do a join in 6.x of two forms using the ODBC connector created > by Remedy using Crystal Reports? As far as I know you still can't do it... > > > > Thanks, > > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:47 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > From a non-technical perspective. > > I would love to Remedy use their own apps, performing an upgrade for > each version; and in the process document the steps used to perform > the upgrade and generate a white paper > > I would love to see Remedy support the versions of ARS listed as > supported; i.e., release bug fixes for those versions instead of > giving the solution of upgrade to the latest version. > > I would love to see Remedy upgrade to the latest version of mid-tier > for their support site. They are using 5.0.1, which imho, is > embarrasing and doesnt speak well of their boasted rearchitecture. > > I would love to see an RFE process that actually works. The current > process is like a black hole. You toss your request in, never to be > heard of or seen again. > > Technical 'I would likes' forthcoming. > > Axton > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > ** > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in > such > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally > missing. > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > For example: > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > > require a lot of development. > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > > functionality. > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > 20060125This posting was > > submitted with HTML in it > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130495 - 01/29/06 07:02 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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old hand
Registered: 06/12/01
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** FYI: For #13 (KB on SupportWeb) until Remedy corrects the problem. After you do a search (before the next search), clear your cache (delete Temporary Internet Files on IE). After I started doing this I could perform as many searches as I needed. Fred
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:59 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** ... 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I have to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to search again due to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for over a year. It finally reached the point where I simply wrote a program that downloads every KB and stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries. ... Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130496 - 01/29/06 07:08 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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journeyman
Registered: 03/10/05
Posts: 82
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Folks,
I have to say that I love the direction of this thread! One point I want to remind everyone of is, if you have something you'd like changed, you NEED to go file an enhancement request on it, otherwise Remedy will most likely not even consider it. Yes, we all know that some folks from Remedy watch the ARSList (Hi Doug!), but it is not the correct method for logging these types of enhancement requests.
And, of course, the more people/organizations that request certain changes, the more likely they are to be considered.
Just my 2 cents worth for the day. :-)
Oh, as far as getting SupportWeb upgraded to the latest code set. I know it's being worked on, but you should really push on your sales reps to see if the process can be sped up at all. It's definitely overdue!!!
Matt Reinfeldt Senior Support Engineer
Entuition Inc.
Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com
http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com
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#130497 - 01/29/06 07:45 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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journeyman
Registered: 06/12/01
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** I would like the client, (user) to have the ability to move, remove, add, their own list of columns in the result list. A way to replace the standard error messages with our own , better looking, error messages. The ability to sub-search any field and find records that have values in the linked sub-table. ( Siebel does this with exists(value) ) The ability to copy a form and have all the workflow, active links, filters, copy as well and rename themselves. 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130498 - 01/29/06 08:06 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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journeyman
Registered: 03/09/05
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** let me log to a form and not files
let me change db field id's after a field has been created (mistakes do happen) allow a 'clear' option on menus, like drop-down lists do when logging an 'Error performing x action' log what the error was and where it occurred, it's a devil to track down errors when they are buried in many layers of workflow and several forms removed from the origional when an error is generated like 'you do not have permissions to field 12345678' would be nice to know which form field '12345678' is on, rather than just the field id provide a way of restarting the threads without having to restart the entire server, such as the escalation thread which has a tendancy to get locked up too frequently On 30/01/06, Scott Ames wrote:
** I would like the client, (user) to have the ability to move, remove, add, their own list of columns in the result list. A way to replace the standard error messages with our own , better looking, error messages. The ability to sub-search any field and find records that have values in the linked sub-table. ( Siebel does this with exists(value) ) The ability to copy a form and have all the workflow, active links, filters, copy as well and rename themselves. 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130499 - 01/29/06 08:10 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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enthusiast
Registered: 05/01/05
Posts: 226
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** Good advice. I just submitted enhancement requests for those I listed earlier today, plus one other: - When submitting an Enhancement Request do not clear out the First Name, Last Name, Phone #, Ext, Email Address, Product Name and Version fields. I had to type these in 20 times just now.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Matt Reinfeldt Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:09 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Folks,
I have to say that I love the direction of this thread! One point I want to remind everyone of is, if you have something you'd like changed, you NEED to go file an enhancement request on it, otherwise Remedy will most likely not even consider it. Yes, we all know that some folks from Remedy watch the ARSList (Hi Doug!), but it is not the correct method for logging these types of enhancement requests.
And, of course, the more people/organizations that request certain changes, the more likely they are to be considered.
Just my 2 cents worth for the day. :-)
Oh, as far as getting SupportWeb upgraded to the latest code set. I know it's being worked on, but you should really push on your sales reps to see if the process can be sped up at all. It's definitely overdue!!!
Matt Reinfeldt Senior Support Engineer
Entuition Inc.
Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com
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#130500 - 01/29/06 08:29 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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enthusiast
Registered: 05/01/05
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** Not everyone may know about this but when you send an email to BMC, such as an enhancement request, some (all?) of the keywords are actually converted into the value they represent. For example, the text $NULL$ in the email or enhancement request is converted to an empty string. To include the literal text of a keyword insert a space somewhere between the dollar signs, like $ NULL$ Stephen 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130501 - 01/29/06 08:38 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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enthusiast
Registered: 03/10/05
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The archgid utility let you change fieldid after the field has been created.
-- Jarl
On 1/30/06, Stephen Earl wrote: > ** > let me log to a form and not files > > let me change db field id's after a field has been created (mistakes do > happen) > > allow a 'clear' option on menus, like drop-down lists do > > when logging an 'Error performing x action' log what the error was and where > it occurred, it's a devil to track down errors when they are buried in many > layers of workflow and several forms removed from the origional > > when an error is generated like 'you do not have permissions to field > 12345678' would be nice to know which form field '12345678' is on, rather > than just the field id > > provide a way of restarting the threads without having to restart the entire > server, such as the escalation thread which has a tendancy to get locked up > too frequently > > On 30/01/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > ** > > I would like the client, (user) to have the ability to move, remove, add, > their own list of columns in the result list. > > > > A way to replace the standard error messages with our own , better > looking, error messages. > > > > The ability to sub-search any field and find records that have values in > the linked sub-table. ( Siebel does this with exists(value) ) > > > > The ability to copy a form and have all the workflow, active links, > filters, copy as well and rename themselves. > > > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it > > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it
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#130502 - 01/29/06 09:56 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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journeyman
Registered: 06/23/04
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Good points being raised....technical & non-technical..some more: 1. I would like to see Remedy patch the ITSM apps more frequently - maintenance on ITSM is generally more expensive than the AR System, yet patches are few & far between. Upgrading to the latest version is not a solution for many people, it is a difficult & time-consuming task. Plus there's no guarantee bugs in one version will be fixed in the next... 2. Continuing on, I would like to see Remedy actually fix bugs in the ITSM suite - we've found well over a dozen shockers in ITSM 6, several of which were reported in ITSM 5.0, some even in ITSM 4.0. 3. One of Sean's: Customisable table columns - I've seen this in other products and it definitely impresses users and provides them with a lot more flexibility 4. Provide a Migration tool that actually covers the product suite. Don't build and promote one tool as the "migration" solution and then start releasing apps that break it (i.e. CMDB, SLA, etc). 5. Ditto for development. When you use the Admin tool for basically all development, it's a pain to have to develop via the User Tool for a few specific apps and suffer the limitations imposed (i.e. the class manager in the CMDB preventing spaces in attribute names, notifications in the SLA module not allowing use of Email Engine functionality - header/content/footer templates etc). 5. From Axton: db related improvements - i.e. bind variables, BLOBs instead of LONG RAW. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2006 5:55 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Another: - Ability to define join forms of the type 'union' (goes back to my 'leverage the db' annoyance from an earlier post) Axton On 1/30/06, Axton wrote: > Some more: > > - Ability to run Crystal Enterprise server on a platform other than > M$. Currently bound to M$ because the odbc driver provided by Remedy > only works on M$. > - Ability to use the approval server, that is now given "free" with > the arserver without having to require every user in the system that > could potentially approve a request to have a fixed or floating > license. It's nice to have it free, but doesn't do me much good if I > can't use it. I think we were better off when it was license on a per
> form basis. > > Axton > > > On 1/30/06, Sean Garrison wrote: > > ARS Fixes I would like to see: > > > > 1. If you have an escalation that takes a lot of resources ... it > > seems to prevent all of the other escalations from running. This > > causes a problem if you are running a one time script and still need
> > pages sent out in a timely manner. > > > > 2. Separate AREA stuff from arplugin. We have had problems with > > users not being able to log into remedy. We can't tell if it was > > the SLA, ARFPerl, Reporting, E-mail, ARDBC, etc. that caused the > > problem .... a restart of the plugin resolved the issue. But to me
> > it is a fundamental flaw in the system .... > > > > 3. No one I know has ever gotten Remedy Developer Plus to work (out
> > of about 7 remedy developers from 3 different companies). > > > > 4. Java API still has to use the native C libraries ... wish they > > would create a JAVA API that was not OS specific. > > > > 5. I still get complaints about not being able to customize table > > columns or do multi-sort by the users. This is especially useful for something like > > a "Console" view but obviously isn't needed for some tables ... But nice > > to know that ARS 7 is supposed to come out with some sort of Tree > > like view .... > > > > 6. A clock or "Age" field would be nice that would show you that > > you have 30 seconds ... 29 ... 28 before this thing pages the CEO > > and the world as you know it will come to an end :-) > > > > 7. The ability to search for Distinct records in a join form. Maybe
> > some sort of "Distinct" checkbox for fields in the Join form. > > Sometimes you want a join to only return one record even though the > > ticket may be listed more than once because of the many to one relationship in the join. > > > > 9. Can you do a join in 6.x of two forms using the ODBC connector > > created by Remedy using Crystal Reports? As far as I know you still can't do it... > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sean > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton > > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:47 AM > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > From a non-technical perspective. > > > > I would love to Remedy use their own apps, performing an upgrade for
> > each version; and in the process document the steps used to perform > > the upgrade and generate a white paper > > > > I would love to see Remedy support the versions of ARS listed as > > supported; i.e., release bug fixes for those versions instead of > > giving the solution of upgrade to the latest version. > > > > I would love to see Remedy upgrade to the latest version of mid-tier
> > for their support site. They are using 5.0.1, which imho, is > > embarrasing and doesnt speak well of their boasted rearchitecture. > > > > I would love to see an RFE process that actually works. The current
> > process is like a black hole. You toss your request in, never to be
> > heard of or seen again. > > > > Technical 'I would likes' forthcoming. > > > > Axton > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > > ** > > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix
> > > or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's > > > implemented in > > such > > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is > > > totally > > missing. > > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that > > > doesn't require a lot of development. > > > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all > > > the functionality. > > > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when > > > a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > > > 20060125This posting was submitted with > > > HTML in it > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > > http://www.ARSLIST.org > > >
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#130503 - 01/29/06 10:11 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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journeyman
Registered: 03/09/05
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** my point however is that you should be able to undertake this operation within the admin tool, there is no 'real' reason why this couldn't be accomplished, plus archgid has it's own flaws as our system recently discovered... Stephen
On 30/01/06, Jarl Grøneng wrote:
The archgid utility let you change fieldid after the field has been created. -- Jarl On 1/30/06, Stephen Earl < flirble@gmail.com> wrote: > ** > let me log to a form and not files > > let me change db field id's after a field has been created (mistakes do > happen) > > allow a 'clear' option on menus, like drop-down lists do > > when logging an 'Error performing x action' log what the error was and where > it occurred, it's a devil to track down errors when they are buried in many > layers of workflow and several forms removed from the origional > > when an error is generated like 'you do not have permissions to field > 12345678' would be nice to know which form field '12345678' is on, rather > than just the field id > > provide a way of restarting the threads without having to restart the entire > server, such as the escalation thread which has a tendancy to get locked up > too frequently > > On 30/01/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > ** > > I would like the client, (user) to have the ability to move, remove, add, > their own list of columns in the result list. > > > > A way to replace the standard error messages with our own , better > looking, error messages. > > > > The ability to sub-search any field and find records that have values in > the linked sub-table. ( Siebel does this with exists(value) ) > > > > The ability to copy a form and have all the workflow, active links, > filters, copy as well and rename themselves. > > > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it > > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
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#130504 - 01/30/06 12:24 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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newbie
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 21
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**
First off, I love Remedy; but, here is my list:
ARS
1. When setting permissions for a group in the Admin tool, allow me to highlight more than one object and set several fields from read to write. 2. In the admin tool, add a way to see not just when a piece of workflow was created, but let me see when it was last executed. 3. In the Admin tool, let me choose when to first execute interval escalations, not just execute first on save. 4. Perhaps Import in Place should work more regularly. 5. In the import tool, allow me to import in place using a specified criteria ie: map fields as always, but allow me to just do a record update based on a predetermined criteria other than Request ID. 6. In the import tool, I should be able to save a mapping between an import file and the table, and use this mapping with whatever file with whatever name I choose the next time I call the mapping. 7. Create either a new tool, or integrate into the admin tool, a way to mass change the background and form attributes for an application. (colors and text) 8. Get it over with and Include DSO into the Off the Self Admin tool for free. Otherwise, if you are going to sell a product, support and advertise it. Too many customers buy this and stumble around.
HelpDesk
1. This is the same product year in and year out, with just the ARS enhancements filtered in for releases, at least attempt to change it between versions 2. Cut down the amount of Active links I need to change when adding a field to the People or HD Form People section to a manageable number. It's a project in itself 3. Don't include the light versions of Change, Asset, and SLA included with the Helpdesk product anymore, and if you do, please name and their workflow them something different so we can easily tell the code apart from the released product.
MidTier:
I hate to reference another product, but if ARS had an alternate web Admin front end more like FrontPage, People could actually turn web functionality around more quickly.Timothy Button
Remedy Systems Consultant
tbutton@remedyconsultant.com
972-746-5165
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What Bugs you about Remedy?
What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier?
For example:
I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development.
I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality.
I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc...
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#130505 - 01/31/06 03:39 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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old hand
Registered: 03/22/05
Posts: 738
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To add some more:
- Server events that properly register events (import actions cause all kinds of erroneous behavior)
- Ability to move a single field between servers. Would be nice to be able to export a form with only a series of selected field; then import it to add/update only those fields on the target server.
- Why can't the unix/linux server patches be available as a .tar.gz download. What is the point in making me set the permissions/masks for every one of the files and require me to download them one by one.
To comment on soem of Carey's remarks:
> 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool.
Uh... You likely mean "use my Windows login as a 'Single-Sign-On' option via the User Tool". I can only hope that BMC sees how bad of an idea that would be. ( I do not trust Windows authentication. It is far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user you want to me. Reboot from a CD, rest the users password vai a special tool and restart and your in as that user. Very bad that it even caches domain passwords so you should be able to impersonate domain users that way too!
However, if there is ever a widely adopted PKI based "Single-Sign-On" model then I would really like to see an AREA plug in for the HUB that would support that too. (And a turnkey solution for the Mid-Tier would not hurt too. I know I am not asking for the sky, just most of the clouds. :)
>> There should be some type of framework to make this possible for all single-sign on solutions; be it Active Directory, SiteMinder, Oracle, etc,; even if it is not a turnkey solution and is an api that can be compiled and packaged with the aruser installation program. Currently, no capabilities exist.
>> "far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user you want to me". How do you do this to make yourself a domain user, since you still have to authenticate to the domain controller? Even if you have a machine that is not connected to the network and you use the cached login/password, this does not mean you are authenticated to the domain. Try it using something like using Outlook connecting to Exchange. Physical secuirity, trust relationships (for keys), encryption, etc. are all concepts adopted by various security models, of which M$ does follow, to some degree. M$ just has too many mistakes/slop jobs in seperating userland from the kernel, which is why people are able to gain elevated privelages or launch DoS attacks using apps that should be confined to userland but aren't. Totally seperate from active directory/M$ security model.
>> "far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user you want". So, I can do the same with any unix/linux desktop with a floppy, usb device, or cd. Does this make it a mistake to trust any unix/linux accepted authentication mechanisms?
> 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user > can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into > Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to > support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into > effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a > Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - > the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity.
Teach your users to logout before they leave the terminal and this will not be a problem. They need to logout from the "remote side" too. It is a consistent behaviour that is a "best practice".
>> This is not a "best practice". It's a waste of time. Every time the support agent gets a call where he has to move, he should be able to access Remedy from there while leaving Remedy open with his other dozen requests in progress open at his desk. The licensing model is too restrictive. It inhibits people from using the system the way it was intended to be used. There has to be a compromise in there somewhere where BMC can enforce it's licensing model and allow people to use the system. I quote my earlier statement where we can't use a load balanced mid-tier environment and the client at the same time, even from the same machine.
Axton
On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > I would like the client, (user) to have the ability to move, remove, add, > their own list of columns in the result list. > > A way to replace the standard error messages with our own , better looking, > error messages. > > The ability to sub-search any field and find records that have values in the > linked sub-table. ( Siebel does this with exists(value) ) > > The ability to copy a form and have all the workflow, active links, filters, > copy as well and rename themselves. > > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it
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#130506 - 01/30/06 05:31 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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newbie
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** Stephen, I have used the following for all the keywords when they are entered in a text field without having them evaluated - adding a backslash "\" after the first $ sign ex: $\NULL$. This works very well when the field value which has the specialized keyword (as in the example above) is substituted in a certain Actions in AL/Filter, the keyword is evaluated and then processed in the Action. One of the tips I learnt working on CSS 5.0 Suite. Cheers, -- Shyam
----- Original Message ----- From: Heider, Stephen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.crm.arsystem.general Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:29 PM Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** Not everyone may know about this but when you send an email to BMC, such as an enhancement request, some (all?) of the keywords are actually converted into the value they represent. For example, the text $NULL$ in the email or enhancement request is converted to an empty string. To include the literal text of a keyword insert a space somewhere between the dollar signs, like $ NULL$ Stephen 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130507 - 01/30/06 08:46 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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journeyman
Registered: 06/12/01
Posts: 177
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** Hi Sean i have been using Remedy Developer Plus for a couple of months now without any problems! what problems are you having?
kind regards
shafqat
Sean Garrison wrote:
ARS Fixes I would like to see: 1. If you have an escalation that takes a lot of resources ... it seems to prevent all of the other escalations from running. This causes a problem if you are running a one time script and still need pages sent out in a timely manner. 2. Separate AREA stuff from arplugin. We have had problems with users not being able to log into remedy. We can't tell if it was the SLA, ARFPerl, Reporting, E-mail, ARDBC, etc. that caused the problem .... a restart of the plugin resolved the issue. But to me it is a fundamental flaw in the system .... 3. No one I know has ever gotten Remedy Developer Plus to work (out of about 7 remedy developers from 3 different companies). 4. Java API still has to use the native C libraries ... wish they would create a JAVA API that was not OS specific. 5. I still get complaints about not being able to customize table columns or do multi-sort by the users. This is especially useful for something like a "Console" view but obviously isn't needed for some tables ... But nice to know that ARS 7 is supposed to come out with some sort of Tree like view .... 6. A clock or "Age" field would be nice that would show you that you have 30 seconds ... 29 ... 28 before this thing pages the CEO and the world as you know it will come to an end :-) 7. The ability to search for Distinct records in a join form. Maybe some sort of "Distinct" checkbox for fields in the Join form. Sometimes you want a join to only return one record even though the ticket may be listed more than once because of the many to one relationship in the join. 9. Can you do a join in 6.x of two forms using the ODBC connector created by Remedy using Crystal Reports? As far as I know you still can't do it... Thanks, Sean -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:47 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? From a non-technical perspective. I would love to Remedy use their own apps, performing an upgrade for each version; and in the process document the steps used to perform the upgrade and generate a white paper I would love to see Remedy support the versions of ARS listed as supported; i.e., release bug fixes for those versions instead of giving the solution of upgrade to the latest version. I would love to see Remedy upgrade to the latest version of mid-tier for their support site. They are using 5.0.1, which imho, is embarrasing and doesnt speak well of their boasted rearchitecture. I would love to see an RFE process that actually works. The current process is like a black hole. You toss your request in, never to be heard of or seen again. Technical 'I would likes' forthcoming. Axton On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
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#130508 - 01/31/06 01:32 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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newbie
Registered: 01/12/06
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** Stephen....holding things in isn't good for you...so please go ahead and get all your items off of your chest...... :-)
Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. 704-489-8599 (Office) 704-301-1047 (Cell)
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** To those on the List and anyone at BMC, I think ARS is an excellent and powerful product. Yet, every product can be improved. Here is my quick list: 1. Full API support in the .Net API. In addition, with each example in the help guide both C# and VB.Net languages should be included. 2. A button for the $NULL$ keyword throughout the Admin Tool (ie. Run If qualification, Set Fields, etc.) - I use this keyword far more than any other. 3. A button for the $NULL$ keyword in the User Tool for Advanced Searches. 4. Save environment settings in Admin Tool and User Tool as they are changed instead of waiting until the user successfully logs out. Occasionally these programs do crash and any settings are lost. 5. Ability to setup the layout of the Admin Tool and press a button/select a menu option to write these settings to the AR System Administrative Preferences form right then. 6. Larger windows in Admin Tool for developing work flow (Active Links, Filters, Guides, etc.). I have dual 20" monitors and yet I frequently have to scroll or click the ellipsis button to see all the code or objects. 7. Quicker turn-around time for purchasing licenses. Once BMC receives the official request from our vendor it seems to take a very long time to receive the license keys. With almost every purchase our vendor (and sometimes me) has had to repeatedly contact BMC to find out when we would receive the license keys. 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool. 9. More granularity with installing server patches with the installer program. For example, there should be an option to *only* patch DLLs and other files and *not* update any forms, fields or work flow. 10. Support current version of Crystal Reports - at least with the current version of ARS and User Tool. Within 3 months after a new version of Crystal Reports is released [from Business Objects] BMC should endeavor to put out a new patch of the User Tool that supports it. BMC undoubtedly has access to beta and pre-release versions of Crystal Reports months before it is finally released to the public. This should provide ample time to patch the User Tool. 11. Support for current version of SQL Server. Version 2005 was released 3 months with beta versions available for over a year, yet no word on if/when it will be supported. Chances are that 99.9% of ARS would run fine as-is now. 12. Clarify in writing the exact licensing requirements with ARS on SQL Server. After many contacts with our vendor, and our vendor directly with BMC, there is no consensus on how to properly license SQL Server to run ARS. Is it by the number of threads, by number of Remedy users? This information should be posted on the SupportWeb. 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I have to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to search again due to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for over a year. It finally reached the point where I simply wrote a program that downloads every KB and stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries. 14. Add the IP address of users in log files. 15. Have the option to log to tables instead of text files. This could be a regular Remedy form a direct SQL table. This would provide increased ability to monitor and troubleshoot a system, would allow for filtering (ie. I only want to query for entries that I made between 2:00pm and 2:05pm), could take less time to debug and would allow for reporting. 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity. 17. Provide downloadable training modules and exercises on ARS and other Remedy products. These could be billed by module and/or annual subscription for a set of modules. Microsoft has one implementation that may work (https://www.microsoftelearning.com/default.aspx). 18. Display a message when user has Caps-Lock turned On at the User Tool login prompt. It is relatively easy for a user to get locked out of the network (when pass-through authentication is used). In some companies Remedy/network login IDs are numeric, therefore Caps-Lock could be On and the user may not be aware. 19. Create or help sponsor a Remedy Development Guide book. As far as I know there is no third-party design and development book available for the Remedy administrator or developer. This guide would include topics such as solving particular problems, integration with other Remedy modules, integration with external systems, API usage, best practices, etc. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130509 - 01/31/06 02:21 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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Stephen,
You clearly come from a Windows centric environment. So I understand where a lot of what your asking for comes from, but let me add a bit of my own 2 cents to some of these...
I do not work in a Windows only env. Sure we have it on the desktops, but everyone wants to use the web anyways.. and no a Mac, or FreeBSD, or... etc...
See below for my two cents...
On 1/30/06, Heider, Stephen wrote: > ** > To those on the List and anyone at BMC, I think ARS is an excellent and > powerful product. Yet, every product can be improved. Here is my quick > list: > > 1. Full API support in the .Net API. In addition, with each example in the > help guide both C# and VB.Net languages should be included.
Please, Oh please, before you add C#,VB.Net or even .Net to the "supported list of API language" finish the Java API. And personally I think there is more value in a Perl API than any "Windows ONLY" language. Perl and Java runs just fine on Windows.
I know "C" is the primary language for ARS, but C is just plain painful for most people to write. So higher level wrapper are a good thing, but they all cost time/effort/bug fix cycles too. So I think this list needs to be kept to a minimum to allow BMC to get on with new ARS features.
So how about you pick one "Windows ONLY" language and just champion it?
> 6. Larger windows in Admin Tool for developing work flow (Active Links, > Filters, Guides, etc.). I have dual 20" monitors and yet I frequently have > to scroll or click the ellipsis button to see all the code or objects.
Oh I think that should have been done in v1. However Remedy/BMC appears to be very slow to improve the development IDE (AKA: Admin Tool) Maybe v7 will bring a step in this direction?
> 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool.
Uh... You likely mean "use my Windows login as a 'Single-Sign-On' option via the User Tool". I can only hope that BMC sees how bad of an idea that would be. ( I do not trust Windows authentication. It is far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user you want to me. Reboot from a CD, rest the users password vai a special tool and restart and your in as that user. Very bad that it even caches domain passwords so you should be able to impersonate domain users that way too!
However, if there is ever a widely adopted PKI based "Single-Sign-On" model then I would really like to see an AREA plug in for the HUB that would support that too. (And a turnkey solution for the Mid-Tier would not hurt too. I know I am not asking for the sky, just most of the clouds. :)
> 9. More granularity with installing server patches with the installer > program. For example, there should be an option to *only* patch DLLs and > other files and *not* update any forms, fields or work flow.
Or how about just a "standard script format" for applying "file based patches. Keep it simple (batch, WSH, sh, Perl[if you want to]) and pick a shell for the various platforms that you support, but do not just ship me a set of files and say "go put them where they belong", or "the README.txt will tell you what to do".
Give me a "INSTALLDIR" setting at the top of the script and a set of "copy"(cp, etc..) statements in an "unsupported" script for each and every patch drop. We can edit the file if needed.
ALSO... ALWAYS release a patch as a single ZIP file. (Ok to also release all individual files, but provide a single zip file download too. I mean how hard would that really be for you to do? And I know it would save me a lot of time click on 15-30 files and trying to keep them in the right directory structure etc...)
> 12. Clarify in writing the exact licensing requirements with ARS on SQL > Server. After many contacts with our vendor, and our vendor directly with > BMC, there is no consensus on how to properly license SQL Server to run ARS. > Is it by the number of threads, by number of Remedy users? This > information should be posted on the SupportWeb.
Good luck with that request. I am sure the (BMC) lawyers will only tell you to "follow the rules of your RDBMS and your BMC software". Which likely mean that the answer is the highest number/combination you can invent.
> 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I have > to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to search again due > to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for over a year. It finally > reached the point where I simply wrote a program that downloads every KB and > stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries.
I would go one step farther than that... Give us, your paying customers, WebService based integration to our support and enhancement process. Let us have an application on our side that can "submit a ticket", "Search the KB", "Request a License", etc... Let us register ways for you to send messages back to us (if our business rules/networks allow for it), Let us write workflow (on our end) that can remind us that we have not yet received that call back, or bug fix....
Give us access to SLA type reports on the service that our 18% is paying for. Help me prove to my management that the money is worth it because of the service and responsiveness of this (BMC) vendor.
> 14. Add the IP address of users in log files.
And add that as a KEYWORD too. I mean you give us $ TCPPORT $ (which according to the does does not work for a Web Application, that exception needs removed/fixed guys) but you do not give us enough context/connection information in workflow.
Same "context" comment applies to the VUI keyword too. (IMHO, Filters should see this value because it might be helpful to build workflow to allow specific operations based on VUI. Active Link's do not cut it for anyone with an eye to security and a passing a value in a field via an active link has it's own security problems too.)
I would really love an %ENV associative array with the users env settings to be available in workflow (AL and passed up to FL too.) On a browser it would include details about the Mid-Tier, browser and any other session bits that you can get your programming hands on too.
> 15. Have the option to log to tables instead of text files. This could be a > regular Remedy form a direct SQL table. This would provide increased > ability to monitor and troubleshoot a system, would allow for filtering (ie. > I only want to query for entries that I made between 2:00pm and 2:05pm), > could take less time to debug and would allow for reporting.
Here Here. I agree fully. But the files are also needed (at least as a fall back position for the server) and maybe should be a redundancy to the tables like the way a RDBMS deals with a transaction log. Having the logs emit "Server Events" (so some such construct) would also allow us to write workflow and monitor/react to errors/log events as they happen too. :)
> 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user > can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into > Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to > support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into > effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a > Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - > the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity.
Teach your users to logout before they leave the terminal and this will not be a problem. They need to logout from the "remote side" too. It is a consistent behaviour that is a "best practice".
> 18. Display a message when user has Caps-Lock turned On at the User Tool > login prompt. It is relatively easy for a user to get locked out of the > network (when pass-through authentication is used). In some companies > Remedy/network login IDs are numeric, therefore Caps-Lock could be On and > the user may not be aware. > > > Stephen
ABSOLUTELY NOT! This is one of the most stupid Window constructs that I think I have ever seen. If I want to put a phrase in a password that is in all caps and I do not want to "Shift+" every letter/number/symbol then I should be able to use the Caps Lock key. (Without alerting the person looking over my shoulder that I am typing in caps.) Judicious use of CaPs in a password is a good thing but knowing if that "6" was a "6" or "^" makes watching someone type a password harder to do.
If this is implemented, OH Please give me a way to turn it off from the server!
-- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
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#130510 - 01/31/06 03:22 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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enthusiast
Registered: 05/01/05
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Carey,
I thought Windows was the only operating system in existence. No?
Thank you for your details comments. I added a few too.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:21 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Stephen,
You clearly come from a Windows centric environment. So I understand where a lot of what your asking for comes from, but let me add a bit of my own 2 cents to some of these...
I do not work in a Windows only env. Sure we have it on the desktops, but everyone wants to use the web anyways.. and no a Mac, or FreeBSD, or... etc...
See below for my two cents...
On 1/30/06, Heider, Stephen wrote: > ** > To those on the List and anyone at BMC, I think ARS is an excellent > and powerful product. Yet, every product can be improved. Here is my
> quick > list: > > 1. Full API support in the .Net API. In addition, with each example > in the help guide both C# and VB.Net languages should be included.
Please, Oh please, before you add C#,VB.Net or even .Net to the "supported list of API language" finish the Java API. And personally I think there is more value in a Perl API than any "Windows ONLY" language. Perl and Java runs just fine on Windows.
I know "C" is the primary language for ARS, but C is just plain painful for most people to write. So higher level wrapper are a good thing, but they all cost time/effort/bug fix cycles too. So I think this list needs to be kept to a minimum to allow BMC to get on with new ARS features.
So how about you pick one "Windows ONLY" language and just champion it?
I have done a lot more with VB/VBA/VB.Net than with C, so VB.Net would be my natural choice. With the advent of .Net languages it now becomes *almost* only a matter of preference to which language to use. If I knew both C# and VB.Net equally I would chose VB.Net because it is easier to read the code, more English-like.
> 6. Larger windows in Admin Tool for developing work flow (Active > Links, Filters, Guides, etc.). I have dual 20" monitors and yet I > frequently have to scroll or click the ellipsis button to see all the code or objects.
Oh I think that should have been done in v1. However Remedy/BMC appears to be very slow to improve the development IDE (AKA: Admin Tool) Maybe v7 will bring a step in this direction?
Making changes to the underlying framework, such as adding a new keyword, is a large task that would involve a large amount of testing/QA by BMC. However, making windows larger, adding a $NULL$ button, etc. in the Admin Tool would be almost trivial to implement. I bet it could be done in one week with one or two of BMC's great developers. Things like these should be implemented quickly.
> 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool.
Uh... You likely mean "use my Windows login as a 'Single-Sign-On' option via the User Tool". I can only hope that BMC sees how bad of an idea that would be. ( I do not trust Windows authentication. It is far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user you want to me. Reboot from a CD, rest the users password vai a special tool and restart and your in as that user. Very bad that it even caches domain passwords so you should be able to impersonate domain users that way too!
SSO can mean different things to different people in different environments. I was referring to having Remedy [optionally] automatically authenticate the user when the user has already been authenticated to the network domain - Windows Server 2003 in our environment. I agree with you that storing the user's password on the local computer is not the best practice. Our company is nationwide with 4000+ employees; all authenticate to the Windows domain. There is a lot of security measures - and personnel - in place to protect the network. I have confidence in [our implementation of] our Windows authentication that the possibility for someone to hack into an account is remote. I would have no apprehension with Remedy+SSO here. The security would (should?) be like that of Outlook. When I start Outlook I am not prompted for any password because I have already authenticated to the domain.
However, if there is ever a widely adopted PKI based "Single-Sign-On" model then I would really like to see an AREA plug in for the HUB that would support that too. (And a turnkey solution for the Mid-Tier would not hurt too. I know I am not asking for the sky, just most of the clouds. :)
> 9. More granularity with installing server patches with the installer > program. For example, there should be an option to *only* patch DLLs > and other files and *not* update any forms, fields or work flow.
Or how about just a "standard script format" for applying "file based patches. Keep it simple (batch, WSH, sh, Perl[if you want to]) and pick a shell for the various platforms that you support, but do not just ship me a set of files and say "go put them where they belong", or "the README.txt will tell you what to do".
Give me a "INSTALLDIR" setting at the top of the script and a set of "copy"(cp, etc..) statements in an "unsupported" script for each and every patch drop. We can edit the file if needed.
I agree. I ended up writing a console application (VB.Net of course) that automatically creates a batch file that can be later run to: stop the Remedy services, backup the original files, copy the new files on top of the existing files, and then restart the Remedy services. Something like this could be implemented or provided as a downloadable utility.
ALSO... ALWAYS release a patch as a single ZIP file. (Ok to also release all individual files, but provide a single zip file download too. I mean how hard would that really be for you to do? And I know it would save me a lot of time click on 15-30 files and trying to keep them in the right directory structure etc...)
> 12. Clarify in writing the exact licensing requirements with ARS on > SQL Server. After many contacts with our vendor, and our vendor > directly with BMC, there is no consensus on how to properly license SQL Server to run ARS. > Is it by the number of threads, by number of Remedy users? This > information should be posted on the SupportWeb.
Good luck with that request. I am sure the (BMC) lawyers will only tell you to "follow the rules of your RDBMS and your BMC software". Which likely mean that the answer is the highest number/combination you can invent.
> 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I > have to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to > search again due to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for > over a year. It finally reached the point where I simply wrote a > program that downloads every KB and stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries.
I would go one step farther than that... Give us, your paying customers, WebService based integration to our support and enhancement process. Let us have an application on our side that can "submit a ticket", "Search the KB", "Request a License", etc... Let us register ways for you to send messages back to us (if our business rules/networks allow for it), Let us write workflow (on our end) that can remind us that we have not yet received that call back, or bug fix....
Give us access to SLA type reports on the service that our 18% is paying for. Help me prove to my management that the money is worth it because of the service and responsiveness of this (BMC) vendor.
> 14. Add the IP address of users in log files.
And add that as a KEYWORD too. I mean you give us $ TCPPORT $ (which according to the does does not work for a Web Application, that exception needs removed/fixed guys) but you do not give us enough context/connection information in workflow.
An $IPADDRESS$ keyword would be wonderful, in addition to having it in the log files.
Same "context" comment applies to the VUI keyword too. (IMHO, Filters should see this value because it might be helpful to build workflow to allow specific operations based on VUI. Active Link's do not cut it for anyone with an eye to security and a passing a value in a field via an active link has it's own security problems too.)
I would really love an %ENV associative array with the users env settings to be available in workflow (AL and passed up to FL too.) On a browser it would include details about the Mid-Tier, browser and any other session bits that you can get your programming hands on too.
I capture the environment when the main control form is loaded in the application (in the Windows User Tool). I run a Set Fields with $PROCESS$ cmd.exe /c set This captures all settings. I then parse out what I need, like COMPUTERNAME. For the mid-tier I capture the IP Address, network username and domain. These are the only ones I need... There may be other ways to obtain additional data on the connecting user.
> 15. Have the option to log to tables instead of text files. This > could be a regular Remedy form a direct SQL table. This would provide
> increased ability to monitor and troubleshoot a system, would allow for filtering (ie. > I only want to query for entries that I made between 2:00pm and > 2:05pm), could take less time to debug and would allow for reporting.
Here Here. I agree fully. But the files are also needed (at least as a fall back position for the server) and maybe should be a redundancy to the tables like the way a RDBMS deals with a transaction log. Having the logs emit "Server Events" (so some such construct) would also allow us to write workflow and monitor/react to errors/log events as they happen too. :)
> 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same > user can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are > logged into Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move > around a lot to support our users. As soon as the new licensing > enforcement went into effect technicians were now forced to return to > their desk to update a Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update > their tickets right then - the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity.
Teach your users to logout before they leave the terminal and this will not be a problem. They need to logout from the "remote side" too. It is a consistent behaviour that is a "best practice".
For many of the technicians logging out is fine. Others are constantly logged into to two computers throughout the day and are not able to be logged into Remedy on more than one. I am normally logged into three computers... but I am in the Remedy Administrator group and able to run Remedy on all the computers.
> 18. Display a message when user has Caps-Lock turned On at the User > Tool login prompt. It is relatively easy for a user to get locked out
> of the network (when pass-through authentication is used). In some > companies Remedy/network login IDs are numeric, therefore Caps-Lock > could be On and the user may not be aware. > > > Stephen
ABSOLUTELY NOT! This is one of the most stupid Window constructs that I think I have ever seen. If I want to put a phrase in a password that is in all caps and I do not want to "Shift+" every letter/number/symbol then I should be able to use the Caps Lock key. (Without alerting the person looking over my shoulder that I am typing in caps.) Judicious use of CaPs in a password is a good thing but knowing if that "6" was a "6" or "^" makes watching someone type a password harder to do.
If this is implemented, OH Please give me a way to turn it off from the server!
Making this optional would be fine. In our environment I could make use of it several times a day.
-- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
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#130511 - 01/30/06 08:03 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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journeyman
Registered: 06/12/01
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** 24. In Admin Tool provide ability to search objects. For example, highlight all the Filters in this form that update the zTmpField1 field. I believe you can do this one as long as your Search database is in Sync. { Tools | Search Objects } Is that what you mean? 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130512 - 01/30/06 08:07 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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enthusiast
Registered: 05/01/05
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** Similar, but more advanced.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:03 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** 24. In Admin Tool provide ability to search objects. For example, highlight all the Filters in this form that update the zTmpField1 field. I believe you can do this one as long as your Search database is in Sync. { Tools | Search Objects } Is that what you mean? 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130513 - 01/30/06 08:31 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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enthusiast
Registered: 06/12/01
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When you get a customer support survey request, then you are forced to tell them how you feel about their product which takes some time to do unless you lie or just click any on anything, otherwise you can't submit the survey.
Ron
Scotiabank Information Commmons, University of Toronto
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#130514 - 01/31/06 05:00 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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Registered: 06/12/01
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BINGO -=-- That is my Greatest Complaint Right now.. I am thankful for a Installer for Patches.. But you Hit a NERVE ..
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:39 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
To add some more:
- Server events that properly register events (import actions cause all kinds of erroneous behavior)
- Ability to move a single field between servers. Would be nice to be able to export a form with only a series of selected field; then import it to add/update only those fields on the target server.
- Why can't the unix/linux server patches be available as a .tar.gz download. What is the point in making me set the permissions/masks for every one of the files and require me to download them one by one.
To comment on soem of Carey's remarks:
> 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool.
Uh... You likely mean "use my Windows login as a 'Single-Sign-On' option via the User Tool". I can only hope that BMC sees how bad of an idea that would be. ( I do not trust Windows authentication. It is far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user you want to me. Reboot from a CD, rest the users password vai a special tool and restart and your in as that user. Very bad that it even caches domain passwords so you should be able to impersonate domain users that way too!
However, if there is ever a widely adopted PKI based "Single-Sign-On" model then I would really like to see an AREA plug in for the HUB that would support that too. (And a turnkey solution for the Mid-Tier would not hurt too. I know I am not asking for the sky, just most of the clouds. :)
>> There should be some type of framework to make this possible for all single-sign on solutions; be it Active Directory, SiteMinder, Oracle, etc,; even if it is not a turnkey solution and is an api that can be compiled and packaged with the aruser installation program. Currently, no capabilities exist.
>> "far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever >> user you want to me". How do you do this to make yourself a domain user, since you still have to authenticate to the domain controller? Even if you have a machine that is not connected to the network and you use the cached login/password, this does not mean you are authenticated to the domain. Try it using something like using Outlook connecting to Exchange. Physical secuirity, trust relationships (for keys), encryption, etc. are all concepts adopted by various security models, of which M$ does follow, to some degree. M$ just has too many mistakes/slop jobs in seperating userland from the kernel, which is why people are able to gain elevated privelages or launch DoS attacks using apps that should be confined to userland but aren't. Totally seperate from active directory/M$ security model.
>> "far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever >> user you want". So, I can do the same with any unix/linux desktop with a floppy, usb device, or cd. Does this make it a mistake to trust any unix/linux accepted authentication mechanisms?
> 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same > user can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are > logged into Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move > around a lot to support our users. As soon as the new licensing > enforcement went into effect technicians were now forced to return to > their desk to update a Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update > their tickets right then - the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity.
Teach your users to logout before they leave the terminal and this will not be a problem. They need to logout from the "remote side" too. It is a consistent behaviour that is a "best practice".
>> This is not a "best practice". It's a waste of time. Every time the support agent gets a call where he has to move, he should be able to access Remedy from there while leaving Remedy open with his other dozen requests in progress open at his desk. The licensing model is too restrictive. It inhibits people from using the system the way it was intended to be used. There has to be a compromise in there somewhere where BMC can enforce it's licensing model and allow people to use the system. I quote my earlier statement where we can't use a load balanced mid-tier environment and the client at the same time, even from the same machine.
Axton
On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > I would like the client, (user) to have the ability to move, remove, > add, their own list of columns in the result list. > > A way to replace the standard error messages with our own , better > looking, error messages. > > The ability to sub-search any field and find records that have values > in the linked sub-table. ( Siebel does this with exists(value) ) > > The ability to copy a form and have all the workflow, active links, > filters, copy as well and rename themselves. > > > 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML > in it
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#130515 - 01/31/06 05:15 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Axton, We sound like we are mostly on the same page... so here we go. On 1/31/06, Axton wrote: > To add some more: > > > - Why can't the unix/linux server patches be available as a .tar.gz > download. What is the point in making me set the permissions/masks > for every one of the files and require me to download them one by one.
Sure I am ok with that for the Unix version too. (By "zip" I really mean a compressed file appropriate for the target OS for the given BMC product. .tar.gz is cool where that is the standard.)
> To comment on soem of Carey's remarks: > > > 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool. > > Uh... You likely mean "use my Windows login as a 'Single-Sign-On' > option via the User Tool". I can only hope that BMC sees how bad of > an idea that would be. ( I do not trust Windows authentication. It is > far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user > you want to me. Reboot from a CD, rest the users password vai a > special tool and restart and your in as that user. Very bad that it > even caches domain passwords so you should be able to impersonate > domain users that way too! > > However, if there is ever a widely adopted PKI based "Single-Sign-On" > model then I would really like to see an AREA plug in for the HUB that > would support that too. (And a turnkey solution for the Mid-Tier would > not hurt too. I know I am not asking for the sky, just most of the > clouds. :) > > >> There should be some type of framework to make this possible for > all single-sign on solutions; be it Active Directory, SiteMinder, > Oracle, etc,; even if it is not a turnkey solution and is an api that > can be compiled and packaged with the aruser installation program. > Currently, no capabilities exist. > > >> "far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user > you want to me". How do you do this to make yourself a domain user, > since you still have to authenticate to the domain controller? Even > if you have a machine that is not connected to the network and you use > the cached login/password, this does not mean you are authenticated to > the domain. Try it using something like using Outlook connecting to > Exchange. Physical secuirity, trust relationships (for keys), > encryption, etc. are all concepts adopted by various security models, > of which M$ does follow, to some degree. M$ just has too many > mistakes/slop jobs in seperating userland from the kernel, which is > why people are able to gain elevated privelages or launch DoS attacks > using apps that should be confined to userland but aren't. Totally > seperate from active directory/M$ security model.
I have seen cases in the past where the M$ "server" did not reauthenticate the desktop authentication to the domain. So a user could disconnect from the physical network. Replace the locally stored password for an account. Authenticate to the desktop then plug back in to the network and use the credentials that they have now "confiscated". In the cases that the application server "trusts" the desktop authentication, and the desktop authentication has been circumvented (either through hacking or other security vulnerabilities) then this model falls completely apart. (Which is exactly why the ARS AREA/SSO model requires the ARS server to authenticate the user directly and not accept a "client authentication" done at the Mid-Tier or the User Tool.)
However, with a PKI type infrastructure then a physical part of the communication is only one part of the link. Assuming the PKI structure still requires a password from the user then the user must supply that value at some point in the session. Sure the PKI structure might cache that for some limited time line (on the client, in memory) and reapply that authentication as the needs arise, but that time should be as short as practical and not long enough to impact the risk level to security as a whole.
> >> "far to easy to hack your way in to a console and become whatever user > you want". So, I can do the same with any unix/linux desktop with a > floppy, usb device, or cd. Does this make it a mistake to trust any > unix/linux accepted authentication mechanisms?
Yes. That is why no application server should trust any desktop authentication. ( Hey, it is my position and I have yet to see a model that deals with this to my satisfaction.) There are designed ways to recover/stomp/reset almost any account in the computing universe. In fact I can not think of a single system (at the OS layer) that literally requires a reinstall of the OS to recover "Administrator"/"root"/etc...
> > 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user > > can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into > > Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to > > support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into > > effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a > > Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - > > the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity. > > Teach your users to logout before they leave the terminal and this > will not be a problem. They need to logout from the "remote side" too. > It is a consistent behaviour that is a "best practice".
> >I quote my earlier statement where we can't use a > load balanced mid-tier environment and the client at the same time, > even from the same machine. > > Axton
I think that the stated problem has more to do with the way Remedy deals with "IP" from the Mid-Tier.
It shows up in the logs from time to time as this "encrypted"/"encoded" string. ( It is not an IP address form that I have ever seen before. ) If they actually used the real client IP from the mid-tier, then using multiple client types from the same client host should be possible. Since I have yet to get any explanation for this strange string format I can only assume that is is covering some "possible security hole" and they are not going to talk about it.
I can use two ARS User Tool clients with the same non-admin account against an ARS server at the same time from a single host. So my position is that the "problem" is a flaw in the client that does not work, or causes the "problem" with the other clients and not the design of the authentication/license enforcement. (But maybe I am still standing on my head in the corner and seeing this all from the wrong perspective. It could happen. :)
-- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
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#130516 - 01/31/06 05:38 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 06/12/01
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- Ability to move a single field between servers. Would be nice to be able to export a form with only a series of selected field; then import it to add/update only those fields on the target server. Migrator can do this, if I understand what you mean.
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#130517 - 01/30/06 07:48 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** Tim, Since you asked... a few more. 1-20. From previous emails. 21. Provide the option to right-justify text inside a Character field. 22. In the Admin Tool provide ability to filter objects. One of my forms has 600+ Active Links. When I am viewing the ALs it would be more productive to be able to list only a subset when needed. Filtering criteria could be: by prefix, by date range of last modified, by one or more AL Guides, etc. 23. In the Admin Tool provide ability to hide/show disabled objects. If I have 20 Filters that are disabled and will not be worked on now I would rather not see them - it clutters up the display. 24. In Admin Tool provide ability to search objects. For example, highlight all the Filters in this form that update the zTmpField1 field. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** Stephen....holding things in isn't good for you...so please go ahead and get all your items off of your chest...... :-)
Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. 704-489-8599 (Office) 704-301-1047 (Cell)
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** To those on the List and anyone at BMC, I think ARS is an excellent and powerful product. Yet, every product can be improved. Here is my quick list: 1. Full API support in the .Net API. In addition, with each example in the help guide both C# and VB.Net languages should be included. 2. A button for the $NULL$ keyword throughout the Admin Tool (ie. Run If qualification, Set Fields, etc.) - I use this keyword far more than any other. 3. A button for the $NULL$ keyword in the User Tool for Advanced Searches. 4. Save environment settings in Admin Tool and User Tool as they are changed instead of waiting until the user successfully logs out. Occasionally these programs do crash and any settings are lost. 5. Ability to setup the layout of the Admin Tool and press a button/select a menu option to write these settings to the AR System Administrative Preferences form right then. 6. Larger windows in Admin Tool for developing work flow (Active Links, Filters, Guides, etc.). I have dual 20" monitors and yet I frequently have to scroll or click the ellipsis button to see all the code or objects. 7. Quicker turn-around time for purchasing licenses. Once BMC receives the official request from our vendor it seems to take a very long time to receive the license keys. With almost every purchase our vendor (and sometimes me) has had to repeatedly contact BMC to find out when we would receive the license keys. 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool. 9. More granularity with installing server patches with the installer program. For example, there should be an option to *only* patch DLLs and other files and *not* update any forms, fields or work flow. 10. Support current version of Crystal Reports - at least with the current version of ARS and User Tool. Within 3 months after a new version of Crystal Reports is released [from Business Objects] BMC should endeavor to put out a new patch of the User Tool that supports it. BMC undoubtedly has access to beta and pre-release versions of Crystal Reports months before it is finally released to the public. This should provide ample time to patch the User Tool. 11. Support for current version of SQL Server. Version 2005 was released 3 months with beta versions available for over a year, yet no word on if/when it will be supported. Chances are that 99.9% of ARS would run fine as-is now. 12. Clarify in writing the exact licensing requirements with ARS on SQL Server. After many contacts with our vendor, and our vendor directly with BMC, there is no consensus on how to properly license SQL Server to run ARS. Is it by the number of threads, by number of Remedy users? This information should be posted on the SupportWeb. 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I have to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to search again due to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for over a year. It finally reached the point where I simply wrote a program that downloads every KB and stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries. 14. Add the IP address of users in log files. 15. Have the option to log to tables instead of text files. This could be a regular Remedy form a direct SQL table. This would provide increased ability to monitor and troubleshoot a system, would allow for filtering (ie. I only want to query for entries that I made between 2:00pm and 2:05pm), could take less time to debug and would allow for reporting. 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity. 17. Provide downloadable training modules and exercises on ARS and other Remedy products. These could be billed by module and/or annual subscription for a set of modules. Microsoft has one implementation that may work (https://www.microsoftelearning.com/default.aspx). 18. Display a message when user has Caps-Lock turned On at the User Tool login prompt. It is relatively easy for a user to get locked out of the network (when pass-through authentication is used). In some companies Remedy/network login IDs are numeric, therefore Caps-Lock could be On and the user may not be aware. 19. Create or help sponsor a Remedy Development Guide book. As far as I know there is no third-party design and development book available for the Remedy administrator or developer. This guide would include topics such as solving particular problems, integration with other Remedy modules, integration with external systems, API usage, best practices, etc. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130519 - 01/30/06 08:42 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 06/12/01
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** (I'm on 5.1.2, sorry if any of these features are available in 6.x) 25. Ability to search for escalations by length of interval, or day/time scheduled. 26. Facility to make view forms correctly display and update Oracle, SQL etc. date/time columns, and push/pull date/time values between view forms and other types of Remedy forms. 27. Facility to treat integer fields in view forms as selection fields.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:49 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** Tim, Since you asked... a few more. 1-20. From previous emails. 21. Provide the option to right-justify text inside a Character field. 22. In the Admin Tool provide ability to filter objects. One of my forms has 600+ Active Links. When I am viewing the ALs it would be more productive to be able to list only a subset when needed. Filtering criteria could be: by prefix, by date range of last modified, by one or more AL Guides, etc. 23. In the Admin Tool provide ability to hide/show disabled objects. If I have 20 Filters that are disabled and will not be worked on now I would rather not see them - it clutters up the display. 24. In Admin Tool provide ability to search objects. For example, highlight all the Filters in this form that update the zTmpField1 field. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** Stephen....holding things in isn't good for you...so please go ahead and get all your items off of your chest...... :-)
Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. 704-489-8599 (Office) 704-301-1047 (Cell)
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** To those on the List and anyone at BMC, I think ARS is an excellent and powerful product. Yet, every product can be improved. Here is my quick list: 1. Full API support in the .Net API. In addition, with each example in the help guide both C# and VB.Net languages should be included. 2. A button for the $NULL$ keyword throughout the Admin Tool (ie. Run If qualification, Set Fields, etc.) - I use this keyword far more than any other. 3. A button for the $NULL$ keyword in the User Tool for Advanced Searches. 4. Save environment settings in Admin Tool and User Tool as they are changed instead of waiting until the user successfully logs out. Occasionally these programs do crash and any settings are lost. 5. Ability to setup the layout of the Admin Tool and press a button/select a menu option to write these settings to the AR System Administrative Preferences form right then. 6. Larger windows in Admin Tool for developing work flow (Active Links, Filters, Guides, etc.). I have dual 20" monitors and yet I frequently have to scroll or click the ellipsis button to see all the code or objects. 7. Quicker turn-around time for purchasing licenses. Once BMC receives the official request from our vendor it seems to take a very long time to receive the license keys. With almost every purchase our vendor (and sometimes me) has had to repeatedly contact BMC to find out when we would receive the license keys. 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool. 9. More granularity with installing server patches with the installer program. For example, there should be an option to *only* patch DLLs and other files and *not* update any forms, fields or work flow. 10. Support current version of Crystal Reports - at least with the current version of ARS and User Tool. Within 3 months after a new version of Crystal Reports is released [from Business Objects] BMC should endeavor to put out a new patch of the User Tool that supports it. BMC undoubtedly has access to beta and pre-release versions of Crystal Reports months before it is finally released to the public. This should provide ample time to patch the User Tool. 11. Support for current version of SQL Server. Version 2005 was released 3 months with beta versions available for over a year, yet no word on if/when it will be supported. Chances are that 99.9% of ARS would run fine as-is now. 12. Clarify in writing the exact licensing requirements with ARS on SQL Server. After many contacts with our vendor, and our vendor directly with BMC, there is no consensus on how to properly license SQL Server to run ARS. Is it by the number of threads, by number of Remedy users? This information should be posted on the SupportWeb. 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I have to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to search again due to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for over a year. It finally reached the point where I simply wrote a program that downloads every KB and stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries. 14. Add the IP address of users in log files. 15. Have the option to log to tables instead of text files. This could be a regular Remedy form a direct SQL table. This would provide increased ability to monitor and troubleshoot a system, would allow for filtering (ie. I only want to query for entries that I made between 2:00pm and 2:05pm), could take less time to debug and would allow for reporting. 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity. 17. Provide downloadable training modules and exercises on ARS and other Remedy products. These could be billed by module and/or annual subscription for a set of modules. Microsoft has one implementation that may work (https://www.microsoftelearning.com/default.aspx). 18. Display a message when user has Caps-Lock turned On at the User Tool login prompt. It is relatively easy for a user to get locked out of the network (when pass-through authentication is used). In some companies Remedy/network login IDs are numeric, therefore Caps-Lock could be On and the user may not be aware. 19. Create or help sponsor a Remedy Development Guide book. As far as I know there is no third-party design and development book available for the Remedy administrator or developer. This guide would include topics such as solving particular problems, integration with other Remedy modules, integration with external systems, API usage, best practices, etc. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130520 - 01/30/06 08:44 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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old hand
Registered: 06/12/01
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Amen! You have to wonder if they really want the feedback, or if they only want it if you feel strongly enough about it to work through all the stuff not related to the support request.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ron Tyro Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
When you get a customer support survey request, then you are forced to tell them how you feel about their product which takes some time to do unless you lie or just click any on anything, otherwise you can't submit the survey.
Ron
Scotiabank Information Commmons, University of Toronto
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#130521 - 01/30/06 08:46 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** 28. A true datetime field. No more converting between seconds since 1970 and regular date/times.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of O'Hara, Jim Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:42 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** (I'm on 5.1.2, sorry if any of these features are available in 6.x) 25. Ability to search for escalations by length of interval, or day/time scheduled. 26. Facility to make view forms correctly display and update Oracle, SQL etc. date/time columns, and push/pull date/time values between view forms and other types of Remedy forms. 27. Facility to treat integer fields in view forms as selection fields.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:49 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** Tim, Since you asked... a few more. 1-20. From previous emails. 21. Provide the option to right-justify text inside a Character field. 22. In the Admin Tool provide ability to filter objects. One of my forms has 600+ Active Links. When I am viewing the ALs it would be more productive to be able to list only a subset when needed. Filtering criteria could be: by prefix, by date range of last modified, by one or more AL Guides, etc. 23. In the Admin Tool provide ability to hide/show disabled objects. If I have 20 Filters that are disabled and will not be worked on now I would rather not see them - it clutters up the display. 24. In Admin Tool provide ability to search objects. For example, highlight all the Filters in this form that update the zTmpField1 field. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** Stephen....holding things in isn't good for you...so please go ahead and get all your items off of your chest...... :-)
Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. 704-489-8599 (Office) 704-301-1047 (Cell)
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** To those on the List and anyone at BMC, I think ARS is an excellent and powerful product. Yet, every product can be improved. Here is my quick list: 1. Full API support in the .Net API. In addition, with each example in the help guide both C# and VB.Net languages should be included. 2. A button for the $NULL$ keyword throughout the Admin Tool (ie. Run If qualification, Set Fields, etc.) - I use this keyword far more than any other. 3. A button for the $NULL$ keyword in the User Tool for Advanced Searches. 4. Save environment settings in Admin Tool and User Tool as they are changed instead of waiting until the user successfully logs out. Occasionally these programs do crash and any settings are lost. 5. Ability to setup the layout of the Admin Tool and press a button/select a menu option to write these settings to the AR System Administrative Preferences form right then. 6. Larger windows in Admin Tool for developing work flow (Active Links, Filters, Guides, etc.). I have dual 20" monitors and yet I frequently have to scroll or click the ellipsis button to see all the code or objects. 7. Quicker turn-around time for purchasing licenses. Once BMC receives the official request from our vendor it seems to take a very long time to receive the license keys. With almost every purchase our vendor (and sometimes me) has had to repeatedly contact BMC to find out when we would receive the license keys. 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool. 9. More granularity with installing server patches with the installer program. For example, there should be an option to *only* patch DLLs and other files and *not* update any forms, fields or work flow. 10. Support current version of Crystal Reports - at least with the current version of ARS and User Tool. Within 3 months after a new version of Crystal Reports is released [from Business Objects] BMC should endeavor to put out a new patch of the User Tool that supports it. BMC undoubtedly has access to beta and pre-release versions of Crystal Reports months before it is finally released to the public. This should provide ample time to patch the User Tool. 11. Support for current version of SQL Server. Version 2005 was released 3 months with beta versions available for over a year, yet no word on if/when it will be supported. Chances are that 99.9% of ARS would run fine as-is now. 12. Clarify in writing the exact licensing requirements with ARS on SQL Server. After many contacts with our vendor, and our vendor directly with BMC, there is no consensus on how to properly license SQL Server to run ARS. Is it by the number of threads, by number of Remedy users? This information should be posted on the SupportWeb. 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I have to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to search again due to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for over a year. It finally reached the point where I simply wrote a program that downloads every KB and stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries. 14. Add the IP address of users in log files. 15. Have the option to log to tables instead of text files. This could be a regular Remedy form a direct SQL table. This would provide increased ability to monitor and troubleshoot a system, would allow for filtering (ie. I only want to query for entries that I made between 2:00pm and 2:05pm), could take less time to debug and would allow for reporting. 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity. 17. Provide downloadable training modules and exercises on ARS and other Remedy products. These could be billed by module and/or annual subscription for a set of modules. Microsoft has one implementation that may work (https://www.microsoftelearning.com/default.aspx). 18. Display a message when user has Caps-Lock turned On at the User Tool login prompt. It is relatively easy for a user to get locked out of the network (when pass-through authentication is used). In some companies Remedy/network login IDs are numeric, therefore Caps-Lock could be On and the user may not be aware. 19. Create or help sponsor a Remedy Development Guide book. As far as I know there is no third-party design and development book available for the Remedy administrator or developer. This guide would include topics such as solving particular problems, integration with other Remedy modules, integration with external systems, API usage, best practices, etc. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130522 - 01/30/06 09:58 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Matt:
The issue here is that we can't tell what has been submitted before. I feel as if most all of my suggestions are obvious, and have probably been submitted many times..
I think this thread is great, and if Dan might approve, I think it would be great is if the list would submit a consolidated list to BMC.
The collaboration the list users are freely providing costs other companies thousands of dollars to collect; maybe they will appreciate it.
Bert Shuler
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Matt Reinfeldt Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:09 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Folks,
I have to say that I love the direction of this thread! One point I want to remind everyone of is, if you have something you'd like changed, you NEED to go file an enhancement request on it, otherwise Remedy will most likely not even consider it. Yes, we all know that some folks from Remedy watch the ARSList (Hi Doug!), but it is not the correct method for logging these types of enhancement requests.
And, of course, the more people/organizations that request certain changes, the more likely they are to be considered.
Just my 2 cents worth for the day. :-)
Oh, as far as getting SupportWeb upgraded to the latest code set. I know it's being worked on, but you should really push on your sales reps to see if the process can be sped up at all. It's definitely overdue!!!
Matt Reinfeldt Senior Support Engineer
Entuition Inc.
Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com
http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com
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#130523 - 01/30/06 11:14 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Most companies will want to correlate the enhancements requested with the particular customers asking for the change so they can sense what their big money customers want to do and give them priority if possible. A consolidated list like this is useful, but we could do better by filing them individually too. Just take the big list and file a subset you want. Many moons ago I filed enhancement requests. Most of them showed up after a while. I even got an explanation for why one of them would not ever be done. Vote as often as possible. 8) On 1/31/06, Shuler, Albert wrote:
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Matt:
The issue here is that we can't tell what has been submitted before. I feel as if most all of my suggestions are obvious, and have probably been submitted many times..
I think this thread is great, and if Dan might approve, I think it would be great is if the list would submit a consolidated list to BMC.
The collaboration the list users are freely providing costs other companies thousands of dollars to collect; maybe they will appreciate it.
Bert Shuler
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Matt Reinfeldt Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:09 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Folks,
I have to say that I love the direction of this thread! One point I want to remind everyone of is, if you have something you'd like changed, you NEED to go file an enhancement request on it, otherwise Remedy will most likely not even consider it. Yes, we all know that some folks from Remedy watch the ARSList (Hi Doug!), but it is not the correct method for logging these types of enhancement requests.
And, of course, the more people/organizations that request certain changes, the more likely they are to be considered.
Just my 2 cents worth for the day… :-)
Oh, as far as getting SupportWeb upgraded to the latest code set… I know it's being worked on, but you should really push on your sales reps to see if the process can be sped up at all. It's definitely overdue!!!
Matt Reinfeldt Senior Support Engineer
Entuition Inc.
Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com
http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com
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#130524 - 01/30/06 11:42 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** 27 is in fact possible in 6.3...not sure about 6.0
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of O'Hara, Jim Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:42 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** (I'm on 5.1.2, sorry if any of these features are available in 6.x) 25. Ability to search for escalations by length of interval, or day/time scheduled. 26. Facility to make view forms correctly display and update Oracle, SQL etc. date/time columns, and push/pull date/time values between view forms and other types of Remedy forms. 27. Facility to treat integer fields in view forms as selection fields.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:49 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** Tim, Since you asked... a few more. 1-20. From previous emails. 21. Provide the option to right-justify text inside a Character field. 22. In the Admin Tool provide ability to filter objects. One of my forms has 600+ Active Links. When I am viewing the ALs it would be more productive to be able to list only a subset when needed. Filtering criteria could be: by prefix, by date range of last modified, by one or more AL Guides, etc. 23. In the Admin Tool provide ability to hide/show disabled objects. If I have 20 Filters that are disabled and will not be worked on now I would rather not see them - it clutters up the display. 24. In Admin Tool provide ability to search objects. For example, highlight all the Filters in this form that update the zTmpField1 field. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** Stephen....holding things in isn't good for you...so please go ahead and get all your items off of your chest...... :-)
Tim Powell Vice President KPBS, Inc. 704-489-8599 (Office) 704-301-1047 (Cell)
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** To those on the List and anyone at BMC, I think ARS is an excellent and powerful product. Yet, every product can be improved. Here is my quick list: 1. Full API support in the .Net API. In addition, with each example in the help guide both C# and VB.Net languages should be included. 2. A button for the $NULL$ keyword throughout the Admin Tool (ie. Run If qualification, Set Fields, etc.) - I use this keyword far more than any other. 3. A button for the $NULL$ keyword in the User Tool for Advanced Searches. 4. Save environment settings in Admin Tool and User Tool as they are changed instead of waiting until the user successfully logs out. Occasionally these programs do crash and any settings are lost. 5. Ability to setup the layout of the Admin Tool and press a button/select a menu option to write these settings to the AR System Administrative Preferences form right then. 6. Larger windows in Admin Tool for developing work flow (Active Links, Filters, Guides, etc.). I have dual 20" monitors and yet I frequently have to scroll or click the ellipsis button to see all the code or objects. 7. Quicker turn-around time for purchasing licenses. Once BMC receives the official request from our vendor it seems to take a very long time to receive the license keys. With almost every purchase our vendor (and sometimes me) has had to repeatedly contact BMC to find out when we would receive the license keys. 8. Single-Sign-On with Windows User Tool. 9. More granularity with installing server patches with the installer program. For example, there should be an option to *only* patch DLLs and other files and *not* update any forms, fields or work flow. 10. Support current version of Crystal Reports - at least with the current version of ARS and User Tool. Within 3 months after a new version of Crystal Reports is released [from Business Objects] BMC should endeavor to put out a new patch of the User Tool that supports it. BMC undoubtedly has access to beta and pre-release versions of Crystal Reports months before it is finally released to the public. This should provide ample time to patch the User Tool. 11. Support for current version of SQL Server. Version 2005 was released 3 months with beta versions available for over a year, yet no word on if/when it will be supported. Chances are that 99.9% of ARS would run fine as-is now. 12. Clarify in writing the exact licensing requirements with ARS on SQL Server. After many contacts with our vendor, and our vendor directly with BMC, there is no consensus on how to properly license SQL Server to run ARS. Is it by the number of threads, by number of Remedy users? This information should be posted on the SupportWeb. 13. Fix the KB search on the SupportWeb. After one or two searches I have to log out, wait an hour and then log back in to be able to search again due to infinite timeouts. This has been going on for over a year. It finally reached the point where I simply wrote a program that downloads every KB and stores it in a Remedy form so I can perform my own queries. 14. Add the IP address of users in log files. 15. Have the option to log to tables instead of text files. This could be a regular Remedy form a direct SQL table. This would provide increased ability to monitor and troubleshoot a system, would allow for filtering (ie. I only want to query for entries that I made between 2:00pm and 2:05pm), could take less time to debug and would allow for reporting. 16. Change licensing enforcement to pre-version 6.3 whereas the same user can be logged into more than one computer. Our technicians are logged into Remedy at their desk throughout the day. They also move around a lot to support our users. As soon as the new licensing enforcement went into effect technicians were now forced to return to their desk to update a Remedy ticket. They used to be able to update their tickets right then - the new Remedy licensing has reduced worker productivity. 17. Provide downloadable training modules and exercises on ARS and other Remedy products. These could be billed by module and/or annual subscription for a set of modules. Microsoft has one implementation that may work (https://www.microsoftelearning.com/default.aspx). 18. Display a message when user has Caps-Lock turned On at the User Tool login prompt. It is relatively easy for a user to get locked out of the network (when pass-through authentication is used). In some companies Remedy/network login IDs are numeric, therefore Caps-Lock could be On and the user may not be aware. 19. Create or help sponsor a Remedy Development Guide book. As far as I know there is no third-party design and development book available for the Remedy administrator or developer. This guide would include topics such as solving particular problems, integration with other Remedy modules, integration with external systems, API usage, best practices, etc. Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130525 - 01/30/06 11:44 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Some more: - Requiring oracle system level access when doing a new install with an oracle backend. Give instructions/sql scripts that dba's can examine and use to create the tablespace(s), user, session parameters, etc. so that they can do their jobs and we can do ours. - Some installs state they need to be run as root (flashboards?) when in fact they do not. This makes me nervous as I have seen how some of the install scripts are written. Pause the install script and create a script that the person can run as root in another terminal if installing as a non-root user. Something like /tmp/root.sh. In fact, completely disallow root installations altogether. Who runs Remedy on a tcp port < 1024? This is the only reason I can think of that Remedy needs to run as root. - Some application have not had any attention in several versions; like eie, approval, and others. As far as I know everyone who bought these products and has a valid support contract never stopped paying support on them. In fact if I remember correctly, the base arserver list price increased when approval was bundled with it; which means support costs for the base arserver rose as well. Axton On 1/31/06, Alfred Differ wrote: > Most companies will want to correlate the enhancements requested with the > particular customers asking for the change so they can sense what their big > money customers want to do and give them priority if possible. A > consolidated list like this is useful, but we could do better by filing them > individually too. Just take the big list and file a subset you want. > > Many moons ago I filed enhancement requests. Most of them showed up after a > while. I even got an explanation for why one of them would not ever be > done. > > Vote as often as possible. 8) > > > On 1/31/06, Shuler, Albert wrote: > > ** ** > > > > > > Matt: > > > > The issue here is that we can't tell what has been submitted before. I > feel as if most all of my suggestions are obvious, and have probably been > submitted many times.. > > > > > > > > I think this thread is great, and if Dan might approve, I think it would > be great is if the list would submit a consolidated list to BMC. > > > > > > > > The collaboration the list users are freely providing costs other > companies thousands of dollars to collect; maybe they will appreciate it. > > > > > > > > Bert Shuler > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Matt Reinfeldt > > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:09 PM > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > I have to say that I love the direction of this thread! One point I want > to remind everyone of is, if you have something you'd like changed, you NEED > to go file an enhancement request on it, otherwise Remedy will most likely > not even consider it. Yes, we all know that some folks from Remedy watch > the ARSList (Hi Doug!), but it is not the correct method for logging these > types of enhancement requests. > > > > > > > > And, of course, the more people/organizations that request certain > changes, the more likely they are to be considered. > > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents worth for the day… J > > > > > > > > Oh, as far as getting SupportWeb upgraded to the latest code set… I know > it's being worked on, but you should really push on your sales reps to see > if the process can be sped up at all. It's definitely overdue!!! > > > > > > > > > > Matt Reinfeldt > > Senior Support Engineer > > > > > > Entuition Inc. > > > > > > Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com > > > > > > http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com > > > > ***** > > > > "The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use > of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all > computers." 118 > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it > > > > -- > -al
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#130526 - 01/30/06 11:48 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** 27 will work all the way back to 5.1.2. (We do it here in 5.1.2 with no problems) Create your selection field on the View form as normal and on the Database tab fill out the 2 view information fields. Fred
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of L. J. Head Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:42 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** 27 is in fact possible in 6.3...not sure about 6.0
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of O'Hara, Jim Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:42 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** (I'm on 5.1.2, sorry if any of these features are available in 6.x) 25. Ability to search for escalations by length of interval, or day/time scheduled. 26. Facility to make view forms correctly display and update Oracle, SQL etc. date/time columns, and push/pull date/time values between view forms and other types of Remedy forms. 27. Facility to treat integer fields in view forms as selection fields.
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#130527 - 01/31/06 12:08 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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When working on an Active Link / Filter I would like to know it that object is part of a guide.
I would like to be able to have “triggers” that would turn on/off logging. This would allow me to isolate workflow I would like to log for bug/fix tracking.
I would like to be able execute workflow before execution order “0”.
I would like to be able to identify users who performs inefficient or searches. It would be a dream come trough if the only the user ID, IP Address, workflow and SQL was logged for inefficient searches.
A new “form search permission” that only allows users to perform QBE searches on indexed fields.
And most important I would like all the wonderful suggestions listed on this topic to be included in ARS7.0.
All the best Terje Mogle Consulting Ltd terje@moglestue.com
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#130528 - 02/01/06 02:53 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** Yeah.. I agree with that one. It has bitten me several times.
>>> niklas.asplund.list@GMAIL.COM 1/31/2006 11:47 pm >>> I don't know if it has been mentioned earlier... There are quiet a lot of nice suggestions in this thread.
What I am missing is in the admintool is an undo functionality. I don't mean version handling, I mean if you accidentally move a field for example. All other windows programs have this... CTRL + Z .... Why not the admintool??
// Niklas
On 01/02/06, Terje Moglestue wrote: > > When working on an Active Link / Filter I would like to know it that > object > is part of a guide. > > I would like to be able to have "triggers" that would turn on/off logging. > This would allow me to isolate workflow I would like to log for bug/fix > tracking. > > I would like to be able execute workflow before execution order "0". > > I would like to be able to identify users who performs inefficient or > searches. It would be a dream come trough if the only the user ID, IP > Address, workflow and SQL was logged for inefficient searches. > > A new "form search permission" that only allows users to perform QBE > searches on indexed fields. > > And most important I would like all the wonderful suggestions listed on > this topic to be included in ARS7.0. > > All the best > Terje > Mogle Consulting Ltd > terje@moglestue.com > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130529 - 02/01/06 06:47 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** I don't know if it has been mentioned earlier... There are quiet a lot of nice suggestions in this thread. What I am missing is in the admintool is an undo functionality. I don't mean version handling, I mean if you accidentally move a field for example. All other windows programs have this... CTRL + Z .... Why not the admintool?? // Niklas
On 01/02/06, Terje Moglestue wrote:
When working on an Active Link / Filter I would like to know it that object is part of a guide. I would like to be able to have "triggers" that would turn on/off logging. This would allow me to isolate workflow I would like to log for bug/fix tracking. I would like to be able execute workflow before execution order "0". I would like to be able to identify users who performs inefficient or searches. It would be a dream come trough if the only the user ID, IP Address, workflow and SQL was logged for inefficient searches. A new "form search permission" that only allows users to perform QBE searches on indexed fields. And most important I would like all the wonderful suggestions listed on this topic to be included in ARS7.0. All the best Terje Mogle Consulting Ltd terje@moglestue.com UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
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#130530 - 01/31/06 11:27 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Just a couple of my own, have tried to submit them through as RFE-s many times.
42: TR.- and DB.-values available in filter actions 43: Be able to attach Menus to Table-field-columns (with the menu displayed inline in the column if it is editable (hey, when did they correct the "edible"-label in admin?). 44: View forms as part of Remedy join forms. 45: Isolated commits in filters
How about setting up a birds-of-a-feather-session at next RUG/BMC User world where we discuss and produce a RFE-list ("What we wish for christmas....")
/aw
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#130531 - 01/31/06 11:58 PM
SV: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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My two cents on the subject
46: Exception handling. I would like to be able to catch errors in ARS. 47: Run-if. I would like to have run-if for every action in an filter/eskalation/activelink so one could minimize the number of filter. 48: A more evolved plugin-server, so one could build integrations (that can handle attachments) using web services (I have some bad experiences with this).
//Morgan
-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] För Anders Wilhelm Skickat: den 1 februari 2006 12:27 Till: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Ämne: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Just a couple of my own, have tried to submit them through as RFE-s many times.
42: TR.- and DB.-values available in filter actions 43: Be able to attach Menus to Table-field-columns (with the menu displayed inline in the column if it is editable (hey, when did they correct the "edible"-label in admin?). 44: View forms as part of Remedy join forms. 45: Isolated commits in filters
How about setting up a birds-of-a-feather-session at next RUG/BMC User world where we discuss and produce a RFE-list ("What we wish for christmas....")
/aw
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#130532 - 02/01/06 03:02 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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We are getting a MONSTROUS wish list. Is anybody going to present it to Remedy, or do we just assume that they are reading the ARSlist and are paying attention?
Dwayne Martin James Madison University
---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:53:41 -0700 >From: Scott Ames >Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > ** Yeah.. I agree with that one. It has bitten me > several times. > > >>> niklas.asplund.list@GMAIL.COM 1/31/2006 11:47 pm > >>> > I don't know if it has been mentioned earlier... > There are quiet a lot of > nice suggestions in this thread. > > What I am missing is in the admintool is an undo > functionality. > I don't mean version handling, I mean if you > accidentally move a field for > example. > All other windows programs have this... CTRL + Z > .... Why not the > admintool?? > > // Niklas > > On 01/02/06, Terje Moglestue > wrote: > > > > When working on an Active Link / Filter I would > like to know it that > > object > > is part of a guide. > > > > I would like to be able to have "triggers" that > would turn on/off logging. > > This would allow me to isolate workflow I would > like to log for bug/fix > > tracking. > > > > I would like to be able execute workflow before > execution order "0". > > > > I would like to be able to identify users who > performs inefficient or > > searches. It would be a dream come trough if the > only the user ID, IP > > Address, workflow and SQL was logged for > inefficient searches. > > > > A new "form search permission" that only allows > users to perform QBE > > searches on indexed fields. > > > > And most important I would like all the wonderful > suggestions listed on > > this topic to be included in ARS7.0. > > > > All the best > > Terje > > Mogle Consulting Ltd > > terje@moglestue.com > > > > > > >
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#130533 - 02/01/06 03:19 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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EVERYBODY needs to go to supportweb and create an enhancement request for each of the items you would like to see.
FYI: I know they added some things to the admin tool for v7 (at least in the demo at RUG). The thing I can remember right now is the Visio style space evenly buttons.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:02 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
We are getting a MONSTROUS wish list. Is anybody going to present it to Remedy, or do we just assume that they are reading the ARSlist and are paying attention?
Dwayne Martin James Madison University
---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:53:41 -0700 >From: Scott Ames >Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > ** Yeah.. I agree with that one. It has bitten me > several times. > > >>> niklas.asplund.list@GMAIL.COM 1/31/2006 11:47 pm > >>> > I don't know if it has been mentioned earlier... > There are quiet a lot of > nice suggestions in this thread. > > What I am missing is in the admintool is an undo > functionality. > I don't mean version handling, I mean if you > accidentally move a field for > example. > All other windows programs have this... CTRL + Z > .... Why not the > admintool?? > > // Niklas > > On 01/02/06, Terje Moglestue > wrote: > > > > When working on an Active Link / Filter I would > like to know it that > > object > > is part of a guide. > > > > I would like to be able to have "triggers" that > would turn on/off logging. > > This would allow me to isolate workflow I would > like to log for bug/fix > > tracking. > > > > I would like to be able execute workflow before > execution order "0". > > > > I would like to be able to identify users who > performs inefficient or > > searches. It would be a dream come trough if the > only the user ID, IP > > Address, workflow and SQL was logged for > inefficient searches. > > > > A new "form search permission" that only allows > users to perform QBE > > searches on indexed fields. > > > > And most important I would like all the wonderful > suggestions listed on > > this topic to be included in ARS7.0. > > > > All the best > > Terje > > Mogle Consulting Ltd > > terje@moglestue.com > > > > > > >
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#130534 - 02/01/06 03:27 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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I hate to be Captain Bringdown here, but as good as many of these suggestions are, the code for v7 is probably pretty much set by now, so don't expect many of these to be in that version. Let's definitely get them in for v8, though. Most importantly, let's keep hammering Remedy to provide us an RFE system that isn't a black hole, or to better publicize a better one that's available.
Rick Cook * Remedy Approved Consultant * Denali Advanced Integration * (253) 278-4112
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Dwayne Martin Sent: Wed 2/1/2006 7:02 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
We are getting a MONSTROUS wish list. Is anybody going to present it to Remedy, or do we just assume that they are reading the ARSlist and are paying attention?
Dwayne Martin James Madison University
---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:53:41 -0700 >From: Scott Ames >Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > ** Yeah.. I agree with that one. It has bitten me > several times. > > >>> niklas.asplund.list@GMAIL.COM 1/31/2006 11:47 pm > >>> > I don't know if it has been mentioned earlier... > There are quiet a lot of > nice suggestions in this thread. > > What I am missing is in the admintool is an undo > functionality. > I don't mean version handling, I mean if you > accidentally move a field for > example. > All other windows programs have this... CTRL + Z > .... Why not the > admintool?? > > // Niklas > > On 01/02/06, Terje Moglestue > wrote: > > > > When working on an Active Link / Filter I would > like to know it that > > object > > is part of a guide. > > > > I would like to be able to have "triggers" that > would turn on/off logging. > > This would allow me to isolate workflow I would > like to log for bug/fix > > tracking. > > > > I would like to be able execute workflow before > execution order "0". > > > > I would like to be able to identify users who > performs inefficient or > > searches. It would be a dream come trough if the > only the user ID, IP > > Address, workflow and SQL was logged for > inefficient searches. > > > > A new "form search permission" that only allows > users to perform QBE > > searches on indexed fields. > > > > And most important I would like all the wonderful > suggestions listed on > > this topic to be included in ARS7.0. > > > > All the best > > Terje > > Mogle Consulting Ltd > > terje@moglestue.com > > > > > > >
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#130535 - 02/01/06 03:33 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** Hi everyone, I am sure that if Remedy were to incorporate all the items on this Wishlist, it would be a breeze using it, with suggestions coming in from leading technology experts ! I don't really know whether Remedy is working on this feature that I am adding to this wishlist ... I would love the Remedy Migrator to include a feature that allows you to create custom mappings between the fields on two forms like the import utility allows you to. That I feel would enhance the functionality of Migrator to a great extent ! I am not sure if this can be done in the current version of Migrator :) Regards, Krishnakumar
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:02 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? We are getting a MONSTROUS wish list. Is anybody going to present it to Remedy, or do we just assume that they are reading the ARSlist and are paying attention? Dwayne Martin James Madison University ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:53:41 -0700 >From: Scott Ames >Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? >To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > ** Yeah.. I agree with that one. It has bitten me > several times. > > >>> niklas.asplund.list@GMAIL.COM 1/31/2006 11:47 pm > >>> > I don't know if it has been mentioned earlier... > There are quiet a lot of > nice suggestions in this thread. > > What I am missing is in the admintool is an undo > functionality. > I don't mean version handling, I mean if you > accidentally move a field for > example. > All other windows programs have this... CTRL + Z > .... Why not the > admintool?? > > // Niklas > > On 01/02/06, Terje Moglestue < terje@moglestue.com> > wrote: > > > > When working on an Active Link / Filter I would > like to know it that > > object > > is part of a guide. > > > > I would like to be able to have "triggers" that > would turn on/off logging. > > This would allow me to isolate workflow I would > like to log for bug/fix > > tracking. > > > > I would like to be able execute workflow before > execution order "0". > > > > I would like to be able to identify users who > performs inefficient or > > searches. It would be a dream come trough if the > only the user ID, IP > > Address, workflow and SQL was logged for > inefficient searches. > > > > A new "form search permission" that only allows > users to perform QBE > > searches on indexed fields. > > > > And most important I would like all the wonderful > suggestions listed on > > this topic to be included in ARS7.0. > > > > All the best > > Terje > > Mogle Consulting Ltd > > terje@moglestue.com > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > http://www.ARSLIST.org > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it Dwayne Martin Computing Support James Madison University UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
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#130536 - 02/01/06 04:05 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** I would like them to make it possible to display a report in Excel. There was a workaround in 5.x, and our users really appreciate us implementing it. Unfortunately, the workaround isn't functional in 6.3, and I am sure we will hear complaints as soon as we upgrade.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: [ARSLIST] What Bugs you about Remedy? ** What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. What bugs you and what would make your job easier? For example: I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't require a lot of development. I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the functionality. I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130537 - 02/01/06 04:29 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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To elaborate on the ODBC driver item. Would be helpful to have an ODBC driver for Remedy that is ODBC 3.x compliant and available for all supported platforms. Would open the door to jdbc, complex reporting, and other uses. For more information on what ODBC 3.x compliance entails, see: General Specification Info: http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/Odbc/htm/odbcodbcandthestandardcli.asp Supported Calls: http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/Odbc/htm/odbcodbcapireference.asp Axton On 2/1/06, Pierce, Catherine A. wrote: > ** > I would like them to make it possible to display a report in Excel. There > was a workaround in 5.x, and our users really appreciate us implementing it. > Unfortunately, the workaround isn't functional in 6.3, and I am sure we > will hear complaints as soon as we upgrade. > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: [ARSLIST] What Bugs you about Remedy? > > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it
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#130539 - 02/01/06 04:41 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** The way I accomplish this in the Windows User Tool with ARS 6.3: 1. Build a string that contains the report. 1a. Create any header lines, with each line ending in a Return. 1b. Create detail lines that have the columns tab-delimited, with each line ending in a Return. For example, FirstName tab LastName Tab PhoneNumber Return. 1c. Create any footer lines, with each line ending in a Return. 2. Save the string to a text file in a folder on the local hard drive (ie. c:\temp). I use a GUID + ".txt" for the filename to ensure that it is always unique. 3. Run Excel with the name of the text file. Excel will load the file with the detail lines in the proper columns. Note that the report is not formatted (bold, colors, italics, borders, etc.) but it works. Onve the data is in Excel you can create charts/graphs and make it look nice. Comments: With reports that will always be less than 8000 characters I prefer to call a UDF from the DBMS (SQL Server 2000) in the Active Link or Filter. With reports that could be more than 8000 characters I call a stored procedure which populates a temp table - one row per line in the report. So that the lines on the report are in the proper order I have a Section column and a SortOrder column. For headers I set Section=1, Detail Lines - Section=2, Footers - Section=3. These columns allow you to generate the rows in any order. For example, in some reports I have the Totals listed in the header. Yet the totals are not known until after processing the detail lines. I simply set Section=1 to ensure the totals appear at the top. The SortOrder column determines how each row within each section is sorted. After the temp table is populated the next line in the Filter I run bcp.exe to query the temp table in a sorted order. The results of the query are stored to a character field. To run Excel, I first locate the the Excel.exe file. It is usually only in one or two locations on the local hard drive. To locate, I issue a Set Fields command $PROCESS$ cmd.exe /c "if exist """$zTmpField1$""" (echo Yes) else (echo No)" whereas zTmpField1 contains the full path where I think it may be, for example "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\Excel.EXE" for Excel 2003. If it is not there then I check for where it would be for Excel 2002. If you think you may use Excel in more than one place within your application store this value in a Global field and populate it when the main control form is loaded. This way you can easily access the Excel path from any form in your system. HTH Stephen
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierce, Catherine A. Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:05 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** I would like them to make it possible to display a report in Excel. There was a workaround in 5.x, and our users really appreciate us implementing it. Unfortunately, the workaround isn't functional in 6.3, and I am sure we will hear complaints as soon as we upgrade.
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#130540 - 02/02/06 06:08 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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I would like to be able to refer a field in a Guide Goto Label. Then more dynamic workflow can be used.
-- Jarl
On 2/1/06, Heider, Stephen wrote: > ** > The way I accomplish this in the Windows User Tool with ARS 6.3: > > 1. Build a string that contains the report. > > 1a. Create any header lines, with each line ending in a Return. > > 1b. Create detail lines that have the columns tab-delimited, with each > line ending in a Return. For example, FirstName tab LastName Tab > PhoneNumber Return. > > 1c. Create any footer lines, with each line ending in a Return. > > 2. Save the string to a text file in a folder on the local hard drive (ie. > c:\temp). I use a GUID + ".txt" for the filename to ensure that it is > always unique. > > 3. Run Excel with the name of the text file. Excel will load the file with > the detail lines in the proper columns. > > Note that the report is not formatted (bold, colors, italics, borders, etc.) > but it works. Onve the data is in Excel you can create charts/graphs and > make it look nice. > > Comments: > With reports that will always be less than 8000 characters I prefer to call > a UDF from the DBMS (SQL Server 2000) in the Active Link or Filter. > > With reports that could be more than 8000 characters I call a stored > procedure which populates a temp table - one row per line in the report. So > that the lines on the report are in the proper order I have a Section column > and a SortOrder column. For headers I set Section=1, Detail Lines - > Section=2, Footers - Section=3. These columns allow you to generate the > rows in any order. For example, in some reports I have the Totals listed in > the header. Yet the totals are not known until after processing the detail > lines. I simply set Section=1 to ensure the totals appear at the top. The > SortOrder column determines how each row within each section is sorted. > After the temp table is populated the next line in the Filter I run bcp.exe > to query the temp table in a sorted order. The results of the query are > stored to a character field. > > To run Excel, I first locate the the Excel.exe file. It is usually only in > one or two locations on the local hard drive. To locate, I issue a Set > Fields command $PROCESS$ cmd.exe /c "if exist """$zTmpField1$""" (echo Yes) > else (echo No)" whereas zTmpField1 contains the full path where I think it > may be, for example "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\Excel.EXE" > for Excel 2003. If it is not there then I check for where it would be for > Excel 2002. If you think you may use Excel in more than one place within > your application store this value in a Global field and populate it when the > main control form is loaded. This way you can easily access the Excel path > from any form in your system. > > HTH > Stephen > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierce, Catherine A. > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:05 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > ** > I would like them to make it possible to display a report in Excel. There > was a workaround in 5.x, and our users really appreciate us implementing it. > Unfortunately, the workaround isn't functional in 6.3, and I am sure we > will hear complaints as soon as we upgrade. > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:31 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: [ARSLIST] What Bugs you about Remedy? > > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it 20060125This > posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130541 - 02/02/06 12:28 AM
What Bugs you about Remedy?
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This is an interesting question. I believe ARS is one of the best development environments I've experienced. However I believe the application called ITSM needs some improvement. The following are bugs I have seen:
- no referential integrity at many key places of ITSM. If you delete something one place, it should delete it on all supporting tables. There are so many occurrences of this in ITSM that I don't want to name specifics.
- Out-of-the-box Reporting capability on the Consoles is just bad. Only an experienced Administrator can figure it out. I am always altering this for my user community.
- Change Request Templates do not work! I have had to build my own using the dreaded GUID. Oh, by the way, the GUID process could be made a little simpler.
- Now an ARS complaint. The overall philosophy of a Remedy ARS system is to hide low level coding (such as C, SQL and XML). I'd like to see the ARDBC creation become like the Web Services process. Hide everything, and make the interface between different DBMSs a form selection process. Good grief, they do it everywhere else. Incorporate it in a new type of form or just call it ARDBC form. When you actually write one of these, the "C" ends up a template anyways! Why not package this into a form process.
- Another complaint about ARS. The function "Display as Text" needs to allow a border around the hidden box. I'm tired of adding an additional box around "Display as Text" fields.
This is all I can think of right now, Gordon Frank US Army
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#130542 - 02/02/06 01:28 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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On 02/02/06, Frank, Gordon Mr 114th Sig BN wrote:
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This is an interesting question. I believe ARS is one of the best development environments I've experienced. However I believe the application called ITSM needs some improvement. The following are bugs I have seen:
- What development environments have you worked in? Whilst I don't mind working in the Admin tool, I can't say its one of the best dev environments .... the vanilla Admin tool, which is all I have access to, can be pretty painful to work with at times. I'll always hark back to Foxpro 2.6 through to VFP 5.0, which for me at least, had a great development environment.
- no referential integrity at many key places of ITSM. If you delete something one place, it should delete it on all supporting tables. There are so many occurrences of this in ITSM that I don't want to name specifics.
You should see some of the apps we have here on the AS/400s .....
- Out-of-the-box Reporting capability on the Consoles is just bad. Only an experienced Administrator can figure it out. I am always altering this for my user community.
I'll second/third/fourth that - I keep on training people on using it ... and they rarely seem to "get" it.
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#130543 - 02/02/06 01:44 AM
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Jarl,
That and the ability for a Set/Push action to use a "VALUE MAP" from a local field too.
Fill a field with something like....
" 'Local field id' , $remote field id$ 'Local field id2' , $remote field id2$ 'Local field id3' , $remote field id3$ "
Then just have a third type of "map" (currently there is "Custom", "matching ID") of "Advanced" or "see Field" and only identify the field to be referenced. ( Kind of like the "Cross reference field" in a Notify Action, only in a Set Field/Push field field map.)
That would add TONS of flexibility to ARS workflow.
Frankly I think each action should be completely data driven from fields in the current transaction. (Even things like the "If no matching values found", "If multiple matching values found", "refresh table field" etc.. yea you can do the "refresh table field thing with a different construct, but why not just make it a part of the "Advanced" Change field action by letting it point at a local field?)
And if you want to really standardize this stuff... (Which would be fine with me...) Then create a set of Remedy "owned" field ID's that are special propose for just the "Advanced" stuff and simply let use set those fields and call a simple "Do what ever those fields say" *special command*, or new action. That way we add the fields, set the fields and say "do it now" with our workflow, but the reset of the design is managed from Remedy Eng.
And if you get one step farther than that... :)
And actually have a client side scripting language, that we can call like a "filter plugin" (but in active links) and can do all of what active Links can do from inside the scripting language... well... then we are cooking with gas. You could create scripts that take parameters and do all of this with minimal "extra" fields on the form. Plus your scripts (again assuming a call method similar to the "Filter plugin design", and the language picked is a fairly robust existing language that does things like RegEx's) could be custom functions for things like "fixing capitalization" or "field pattern checking" etc...
To bad the Client is not fully open sourced so that WE could enhance it and send it back to Remedy for "addition" into the next version. :)
Oh to dream the dream of yesteryear for a better ARS tomorrow... But me thinks we may ask to much....
-- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
On 2/2/06, Jarl Grøneng wrote: > I would like to be able to refer a field in a Guide Goto Label. Then > more dynamic workflow can be used. > > -- > Jarl
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#130544 - 02/02/06 02:23 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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old hand
Registered: 03/22/05
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Keep in mind that the api for ARDBC plugins is available to expose things other than external databases. It can be made to read flat files, ldap directories, anything of your choosing. I don't see how you can make this a form that you can just point and click since the target can be anything.
What problems have you had with the change templates? These work for us if used as intended (i.e., through a filter push to the change template form top create a new change request).
Axton Grams
On 2/2/06, Frank, Gordon Mr 114th Sig BN wrote: > ** > > This is an interesting question. I believe ARS is one of the best > development environments I've experienced. However I believe the application > called ITSM needs some improvement. The following are bugs I have seen: > > - no referential integrity at many key places of ITSM. If you delete > something one place, it should delete it on all supporting tables. There are > so many occurrences of this in ITSM that I don't want to name specifics. > > - Out-of-the-box Reporting capability on the Consoles is just bad. Only an > experienced Administrator can figure it out. I am always altering this for > my user community. > > - Change Request Templates do not work! I have had to build my own using the > dreaded GUID. Oh, by the way, the GUID process could be made a little > simpler. > > - Now an ARS complaint. The overall philosophy of a Remedy ARS system is to > hide low level coding (such as C, SQL and XML). I'd like to see the ARDBC > creation become like the Web Services process. Hide everything, and make the > interface between different DBMSs a form selection process. Good grief, they > do it everywhere else. Incorporate it in a new type of form or just call it > ARDBC form. When you actually write one of these, the "C" ends up a template > anyways! Why not package this into a form process. > > - Another complaint about ARS. The function "Display as Text" needs to allow > a border around the hidden box. I'm tired of adding an additional box around > "Display as Text" fields. > > This is all I can think of right now, > Gordon Frank > US Army 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it
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#130545 - 02/07/06 09:19 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 03/10/05
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Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can copy.
-- Jarl
On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it
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#130546 - 02/08/06 03:04 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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**
Jarl,
I agree that is annoying. You might try downloading the core files and updates from here: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and simply use ‘tail –f logfilename.log’ :-) As long as you set your MS-DOS console to have a large enough buffer (several thousand lines), you should be fine. Besides… it lets you use real UNIX commands on Windows, which is soooooo nice!
Enjoy,
Matt Reinfeldt Senior Support Engineer
Entuition Inc.
Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com
http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com
-----Original Message----- From: Jarl Grøneng [mailto:jarl.groneng@GMAIL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:19 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from
arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can
copy.
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Jarl
On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote:
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> What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or
> change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such
> a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing.
> What bugs you and what would make your job easier?
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> require a lot of development.
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> I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the
> functionality.
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> I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record
> is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc...
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> submitted with HTML in it
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#130547 - 02/08/06 03:22 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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Another one to add: The funky assignment rules used in the ITSM modules. There is a complete lack of thought behind the weights assigned to each of the CTI/RSD combinations. I couldn't convince anyone at Remedy that this was a bug. They were convinced it was by design, though they could not locate the notes as to why it was designed that way. CTI RSD 1 CTI RS 2 CTI R 3 CTI 4 CT 5 C RSD 6 C RS 7 C R 8 CT RSD 9 CT RS 10 CT R 11 C 12 RSD 13 RS 14 R 15 Axton Grams On 2/8/06, Matt Reinfeldt wrote: > ** > > > Jarl, > > > > I agree that is annoying. You might try downloading the core files and > updates from here: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and > simply use 'tail –f logfilename.log' J As long as you set your MS-DOS > console to have a large enough buffer (several thousand lines), you should > be fine. Besides… it lets you use real UNIX commands on Windows, which is > soooooo nice! > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > Matt Reinfeldt > Senior Support Engineer > > > Entuition Inc. > > > Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com > > > http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jarl Grøneng [mailto:jarl.groneng@GMAIL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:19 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from > > arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can > > copy. > > > > -- > > Jarl > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > > ** > > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in > such > > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally > missing. > > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > > > require a lot of development. > > > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > > > functionality. > > > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > > > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > > > submitted with HTML in it > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it
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#130548 - 02/08/06 03:36 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Yeah, I got the same "explanation" a few years back when I spent half a day deciphering it. It hasn't changed from ITSM 4 to present - I wonder if it's changed in v7? Rick From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Axton Sent: Wed 2/8/2006 7:22 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Another one to add: The funky assignment rules used in the ITSM modules. There is a complete lack of thought behind the weights assigned to each of the CTI/RSD combinations. I couldn't convince anyone at Remedy that this was a bug. They were convinced it was by design, though they could not locate the notes as to why it was designed that way. CTI RSD 1 CTI RS 2 CTI R 3 CTI 4 CT 5 C RSD 6 C RS 7 C R 8 CT RSD 9 CT RS 10 CT R 11 C 12 RSD 13 RS 14 R 15 Axton Grams On 2/8/06, Matt Reinfeldt wrote: > ** > > > Jarl, > > > > I agree that is annoying. You might try downloading the core files and > updates from here: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and > simply use 'tail -f logfilename.log' J As long as you set your MS-DOS > console to have a large enough buffer (several thousand lines), you should > be fine. Besides... it lets you use real UNIX commands on Windows, which is > soooooo nice! > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > Matt Reinfeldt > Senior Support Engineer > > > Entuition Inc. > > > Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com > > > http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jarl Grøneng [mailto:jarl.groneng@GMAIL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:19 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from > > arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can > > copy. > > > > -- > > Jarl > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > > ** > > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in > such > > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally > missing. > > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > > > require a lot of development. > > > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > > > functionality. > > > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > > > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > > > submitted with HTML in it > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it
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#130549 - 02/08/06 03:40 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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I'm willing to bet that they still haven't found the notes detailing the current design; so no changes are necessary since it's still built as designed. (a little friday humor on a wednesday) Axton Grams On 2/8/06, Rick Cook wrote: > Yeah, I got the same "explanation" a few years back when I spent half a day deciphering it. It hasn't changed from ITSM 4 to present - I wonder if it's changed in v7? > > > Rick > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Axton > Sent: Wed 2/8/2006 7:22 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > > Another one to add: > > The funky assignment rules used in the ITSM modules. There is a > complete lack of thought behind the weights assigned to each of the > CTI/RSD combinations. I couldn't convince anyone at Remedy that this > was a bug. They were convinced it was by design, though they could > not locate the notes as to why it was designed that way. > > CTI RSD 1 > CTI RS 2 > CTI R 3 > CTI 4 > CT 5 > C RSD 6 > C RS 7 > C R 8 > CT RSD 9 > CT RS 10 > CT R 11 > C 12 > RSD 13 > RS 14 > R 15 > > Axton Grams > > > On 2/8/06, Matt Reinfeldt wrote: > > ** > > > > > > Jarl, > > > > > > > > I agree that is annoying. You might try downloading the core files and > > updates from here: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and > > simply use 'tail -f logfilename.log' J As long as you set your MS-DOS > > console to have a large enough buffer (several thousand lines), you should > > be fine. Besides... it lets you use real UNIX commands on Windows, which is > > soooooo nice! > > > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > > > > > > Matt Reinfeldt > > Senior Support Engineer > > > > > > Entuition Inc. > > > > > > Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com > > > > > > http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jarl Grøneng [mailto:jarl.groneng@GMAIL.COM] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:19 AM > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > > > > > > Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from > > > > arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can > > > > copy. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jarl > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > > > > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in > > such > > > > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally > > missing. > > > > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > > > > > require a lot of development. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > > > > > functionality. > > > > > > > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > > > > > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > > > > > submitted with HTML in it > > > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > 20060125This posting was submitted > > with HTML in it > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130550 - 02/08/06 03:45 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Like an "epilady razor" in France - It just doesn't matter and doesn't means anything. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:40 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? I'm willing to bet that they still haven't found the notes detailing the current design; so no changes are necessary since it's still built as designed. (a little friday humor on a wednesday) Axton Grams On 2/8/06, Rick Cook wrote: > Yeah, I got the same "explanation" a few years back when I spent half a day deciphering it. It hasn't changed from ITSM 4 to present - I wonder if it's changed in v7? > > > Rick > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of > Axton > Sent: Wed 2/8/2006 7:22 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > > Another one to add: > > The funky assignment rules used in the ITSM modules. There is a > complete lack of thought behind the weights assigned to each of the > CTI/RSD combinations. I couldn't convince anyone at Remedy that this > was a bug. They were convinced it was by design, though they could > not locate the notes as to why it was designed that way. > > CTI RSD 1 > CTI RS 2 > CTI R 3 > CTI 4 > CT 5 > C RSD 6 > C RS 7 > C R 8 > CT RSD 9 > CT RS 10 > CT R 11 > C 12 > RSD 13 > RS 14 > R 15 > > Axton Grams > > > On 2/8/06, Matt Reinfeldt wrote: > > ** > > > > > > Jarl, > > > > > > > > I agree that is annoying. You might try downloading the core files > > and updates from here: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and simply > > use 'tail -f logfilename.log' J As long as you set your MS-DOS > > console to have a large enough buffer (several thousand lines), you > > should be fine. Besides... it lets you use real UNIX commands on > > Windows, which is soooooo nice! > > > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > > > > > > Matt Reinfeldt > > Senior Support Engineer > > > > > > Entuition Inc. > > > > > > Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com > > > > > > http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jarl Grøneng [mailto:jarl.groneng@GMAIL.COM] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:19 AM > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > > > > > > Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from > > > > arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can > > > > copy. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jarl > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix > > > or > > > > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's > > > implemented in > > such > > > > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is > > > totally > > missing. > > > > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that > > > doesn't > > > > > require a lot of development. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all > > > the > > > > > functionality. > > > > > > > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when > > > a record > > > > > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > > > > > submitted with HTML in it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > 20060125This posting was submitted with > > HTML in it > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130551 - 02/07/06 10:13 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Yep, I've logged this bug through our support vendor for both ITSM 5 and ITSM 6. The out-of-the-box logic makes no sense whatsoever. I'm not sure whether Remedy have ever admitted this is a bug, but it was so obvious our support vendor agreed it was a bug and we have documentation on the filters that need fixing. Our weighting is now set as follows (we treat CTI as more important than RSD): > CTI RSD 1 > CTI RS 2 > CTI R 3 > CTI 4 > CT RSD 5 > CT RS 6 > CT R 7 > CT 8 > C RSD 9 > C RS 10 > C R 11 > C 12 > RSD 13 > RS 14 > R 15 Cheers, Matt -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2006 2:40 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? I'm willing to bet that they still haven't found the notes detailing the current design; so no changes are necessary since it's still built as designed. (a little friday humor on a wednesday) Axton Grams On 2/8/06, Rick Cook wrote: > Yeah, I got the same "explanation" a few years back when I spent half a day deciphering it. It hasn't changed from ITSM 4 to present - I wonder if it's changed in v7? > > > Rick > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of > Axton > Sent: Wed 2/8/2006 7:22 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > > Another one to add: > > The funky assignment rules used in the ITSM modules. There is a > complete lack of thought behind the weights assigned to each of the > CTI/RSD combinations. I couldn't convince anyone at Remedy that this > was a bug. They were convinced it was by design, though they could > not locate the notes as to why it was designed that way. > > CTI RSD 1 > CTI RS 2 > CTI R 3 > CTI 4 > CT 5 > C RSD 6 > C RS 7 > C R 8 > CT RSD 9 > CT RS 10 > CT R 11 > C 12 > RSD 13 > RS 14 > R 15 > > Axton Grams > > > On 2/8/06, Matt Reinfeldt wrote: > > ** > > > > > > Jarl, > > > > > > > > I agree that is annoying. You might try downloading the core files > > and updates from here: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and simply > > use 'tail -f logfilename.log' J As long as you set your MS-DOS > > console to have a large enough buffer (several thousand lines), you > > should be fine. Besides... it lets you use real UNIX commands on > > Windows, which is soooooo nice! > > > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > > > > > > Matt Reinfeldt > > Senior Support Engineer > > > > > > Entuition Inc. > > > > > > Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com > > > > > > http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jarl Grøneng [mailto:jarl.groneng@GMAIL.COM] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:19 AM > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > > > > > > Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from > > > > arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can > > > > copy. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jarl > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix > > > or > > > > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's > > > implemented in > > such > > > > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is > > > totally > > missing. > > > > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that > > > doesn't > > > > > require a lot of development. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all > > > the > > > > > functionality. > > > > > > > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when > > > a record > > > > > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > > > > > submitted with HTML in it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > 20060125This posting was submitted with > > HTML in it > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130552 - 02/08/06 10:09 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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journeyman
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I agree. Whoever designed this must not have been thinking about how it would actually get used. But they did place the filters in guides in 5.5. That made it easier to change the weights if you wanted. Unfortunately, they introduced a bug that caused two of the combinations to get the same weight. I too, will be interested to see what's in v7. Roger Medsker Bluestem Consulting Group LLC roger.medsker@bluestemcg.com -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:37 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Yeah, I got the same "explanation" a few years back when I spent half a day deciphering it. It hasn't changed from ITSM 4 to present - I wonder if it's changed in v7? Rick From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Axton Sent: Wed 2/8/2006 7:22 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Another one to add: The funky assignment rules used in the ITSM modules. There is a complete lack of thought behind the weights assigned to each of the CTI/RSD combinations. I couldn't convince anyone at Remedy that this was a bug. They were convinced it was by design, though they could not locate the notes as to why it was designed that way. CTI RSD 1 CTI RS 2 CTI R 3 CTI 4 CT 5 C RSD 6 C RS 7 C R 8 CT RSD 9 CT RS 10 CT R 11 C 12 RSD 13 RS 14 R 15 Axton Grams On 2/8/06, Matt Reinfeldt wrote: > ** > > > Jarl, > > > > I agree that is annoying. You might try downloading the core files > and updates from here: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and simply use > 'tail -f logfilename.log' J As long as you set your MS-DOS console to > have a large enough buffer (several thousand lines), you should be > fine. Besides... it lets you use real UNIX commands on Windows, which > is soooooo nice! > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > Matt Reinfeldt > Senior Support Engineer > > > Entuition Inc. > > > Email: matt.reinfeldt@entuition.com > > > http://www.mattreinfeldt.com | http://www.mwrug.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jarl Grøneng [mailto:jarl.groneng@GMAIL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:19 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > > Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from > > arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can > > copy. > > > > -- > > Jarl > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > > ** > > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix > > or > > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented > > in > such > > > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally > missing. > > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that > > doesn't > > > require a lot of development. > > > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > > > functionality. > > > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a > > record > > > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > > > 20060125This posting was > > > submitted with HTML in it > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML > in it
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#130553 - 02/10/06 04:23 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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old hand
Registered: 03/22/05
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On the logging item, these would all be nice:
- rollover size per log file/or optionally rollover time window, regarless of size - mode per log file to be created with - count of number of logs to retain, per log file - whether or not to zip the rolled over log files - server side 'log for user x'
Axton Grams
On 2/10/06, Heider, Stephen wrote: > A few more: > > - Add a Logging Toolbar in the Admin Tool with buttons to quickly turn on/off each of the log files. Presently, it takes 5 mouse clicks to toggle a log file on/off (File -> Server Information -> Logging -> log checkbox -> OK). A toolbar would allow 1-click access to toggle the logging. > > - Allow more than one backup log file to exist before overwriting. When a logging is enabled the previous log file is copied with a .bak file extension. When the logging is disabled and then enabled (or Remedy service restarted) the previous .bak file is overwritten. I would like to see the backup log files be renamed to .bk1, .bk2, .bk3 - .bk9. > > - Allow option for a specific Filter or Active Link to run with a custom process time-out value. I have a few commands that can take longer than the maximum 60 seconds currently allowed to complete. One example is accessing an external system and creating a report. Since I [the developer] already know that it may take longer than 60 seconds to run I want the option of setting a customized timeout value (ie. 120 seconds) in that Filter or Active Link. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jarl Grøneng > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:19 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can copy. > > -- > Jarl > > > On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > > ** > > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented > > in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > > > For example: > > > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that > > doesn't require a lot of development. > > > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > > functionality. > > > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a > > record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > > > 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML > > in it > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130554 - 02/10/06 03:18 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 05/01/05
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A few more:
- Add a Logging Toolbar in the Admin Tool with buttons to quickly turn on/off each of the log files. Presently, it takes 5 mouse clicks to toggle a log file on/off (File -> Server Information -> Logging -> log checkbox -> OK). A toolbar would allow 1-click access to toggle the logging.
- Allow more than one backup log file to exist before overwriting. When a logging is enabled the previous log file is copied with a .bak file extension. When the logging is disabled and then enabled (or Remedy service restarted) the previous .bak file is overwritten. I would like to see the backup log files be renamed to .bk1, .bk2, .bk3 - .bk9.
- Allow option for a specific Filter or Active Link to run with a custom process time-out value. I have a few commands that can take longer than the maximum 60 seconds currently allowed to complete. One example is accessing an external system and creating a report. Since I [the developer] already know that it may take longer than 60 seconds to run I want the option of setting a customized timeout value (ie. 120 seconds) in that Filter or Active Link.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jarl Grøneng Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:19 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can copy.
-- Jarl
On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented > in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that > doesn't require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a > record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML > in it
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#130555 - 02/09/06 09:12 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 06/28/04
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** Here is another one... When you have your AR Servers behind a load balancer and you log into the Admin tool using the Load balance server name, it randomly connects you to any of the servers. So if you want to do an admin task like create workflow or some stuff like that, you have to re-log in again by either finding out which of the servers is an Admin server and connecting to it by its actual hostname - or keep logging into the Admin tool using the Load balance name and check the Server Information - Configuration tab every time you log on to see if you are connected to the instance which doesn't have the Admin operation disabled... I would have loved it if the login went straight to the admin server if resolved using the Load balance name when logging through the AR Admin tool... Joe
"Heider, Stephen" wrote:
A few more: - Add a Logging Toolbar in the Admin Tool with buttons to quickly turn on/off each of the log files. Presently, it takes 5 mouse clicks to toggle a log file on/off (File -> Server Information -> Logging -> log checkbox -> OK). A toolbar would allow 1-click access to toggle the logging. - Allow more than one backup log file to exist before overwriting. When a logging is enabled the previous log file is copied with a .bak file extension. When the logging is disabled and then enabled (or Remedy service restarted) the previous .bak file is overwritten. I would like to see the backup log files be renamed to .bk1, .bk2, .bk3 - .bk9. - Allow option for a specific Filter or Active Link to run with a custom process time-out value. I have a few commands that can take longer than the maximum 60 seconds currently allowed to complete. One example is accessing an external system and creating a report. Since I [the developer] already know that it may take longer than 60 seconds to run I want the option of setting a customized timeout value (ie. 120 seconds) in that Filter or Active Link. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jarl Grøneng Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:19 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can copy. -- Jarl On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented > in such a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that > doesn't require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a > record is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc...
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#130556 - 02/09/06 09:13 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 01/11/06
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** really really really wish there was an undo in the admin tool
Jarl Grøneng wrote:
Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can copy. -- Jarl On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
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#130557 - 02/09/06 09:28 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 03/09/05
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** I second that...
On 10/02/06, jack trillickson wrote:
** really really really wish there was an undo in the admin tool Jarl Grøneng wrote:
Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can copy. -- Jarl On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
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#130558 - 02/13/06 06:12 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 06/28/04
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** Or I would think the Admin tool should be redesigned a weeeee bit, that when it attempts to connect to a server, it reads the config file, and if the key Admin operations on it are disabled, DO NOT connect to it and hop to another - might result in a bit of a lag of there are a few servers behind the load balancer, till it finds the admin server, but at least once it gets in you could do what you want without that message that admin operations on this server are disabled... Joe
Carey Matthew Black wrote:
Joe, I hear you about that, but I think the problem is not really a Remedy issue. It sounds more like an issue with the load balancer. Then again I guess Remedy could decide to make the Admin thread run on a separate TCP port so that the load balancer could monitor which node is up and down and route to the right node. But that would likely not allow the admin thread to participate in normal User Tool things the way it currently does too. I guess I think this is more of an issue with the network protocols/load balancer design than with Remedy. Does that make any sense to you? Or am I missing something obvious? -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. On 2/10/06, Joe DeSouza wrote: > ** > Here is another one... > > When you have your AR Servers behind a load balancer and you log into the > Admin tool using the Load balance server name, it randomly connects you to > any of the servers. So if you want to do an admin task like create workflow > or some stuff like that, you have to re-log in again by either finding out > which of the servers is an Admin server and connecting to it by its actual > hostname - or keep logging into the Admin tool using the Load balance name > and check the Server Information - Configuration tab every time you log on > to see if you are connected to the instance which doesn't have the Admin > operation disabled... > > I would have loved it if the login went straight to the admin server if > resolved using the Load balance name when logging through the AR Admin > tool... > > Joe
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#130559 - 02/16/06 02:37 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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enthusiast
Registered: 05/01/05
Posts: 226
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** To continue one of the longest threads... - Add a command to stop filter or active link processing. GoTo 1000 is currently used but a command similar to Exit Guide would be better... such as End Filter Processing and End Active Link Processing. - Option to skip All filters during an update. Currently, this can only be done by directly editing the SQL tables, or using an execution 0 filter with a GoTo 1000. Since field names can change I would rather use 100% ARS code instead of going around Remedy. - Option to not have scroll bars on forms. Currently, every form has to have extra space on the right side and bottom side of the form in order to prevent scroll bars from appearing. - Option to determine window sizes at design time for non-modal windows so that the form does not auto-maximize if another window is maximized. - Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all parenthesis before making a change or to debug. - Add a Pause command for Active Links. This would pause execution for ## seconds. This is currently accomplished by looping an active link until a specified time, but it can use up to 100% of the CPU.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of jack trillickson Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:14 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
** really really really wish there was an undo in the admin tool
Jarl Grøneng wrote:
Whats really bugs me is that there is not possible to copy from arlogdisplay. Need to save as rtf-format, open this and then you can copy. -- Jarl On 1/30/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > What bugs you about Remedy and what would you like to see them fix or > change? Sometimes Remedy has the functionality, but it's implemented in such > a way as to be quite a pain. Sometimes the functionality is totally missing. > What bugs you and what would make your job easier? > > For example: > > I would love to see a simple single sign on implementation that doesn't > require a lot of development. > > I would like to see a robust ODBC driver for Remedy that has all the > functionality. > > I would like an option to generated the record ID in advance when a record > is created rather than when it's saved. ...etc... > > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
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#130560 - 02/16/06 02:50 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 06/12/01
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** Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all parenthesis before making a change or to debug. I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write yourself" 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130561 - 02/16/06 03:14 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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journeyman
Registered: 03/11/04
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I wish they would at least add some sort of formatting feature like Master Documenter had that would align and indent the Run If so you could read it better.
Chad Hall (501) 342-2650
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:51 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all parenthesis before making a change or to debug.
I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write yourself"
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#130562 - 02/16/06 05:55 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 10/19/05
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** I'll second/third/fourth/fifth that one. I'm making a lot of changes to our console view, and I'm sure the additional parantheses are just there to wind me up; there can be no other purpose, can there?
On 16/02/06, Scott Ames wrote:
** Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all parenthesis before making a change or to debug. I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write yourself" 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130564 - 02/16/06 06:26 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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old hand
Registered: 07/10/04
Posts: 851
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All,
I have to disagree with part of this one. :(
Seeing how ARS is parsing a complicated qualification can (and has for me) explain why a table field that should be showing a few records is actually displaying no records. Or why a workflow Run If qual did not actually match a transaction.
So. If there is any way to improve how I can understand what the system is actually doing, like putting parenthesis around the values, then I am all for it.
Now with that said....
I am not opposed to a prettier way to organize(indent/multi-line display/etc) these values either. But please do not remove something that is as helpful and explicit as those parentheses. :)
However the extent to which parenthesis are used in SetField Values does seem more than a bit excessive to me. (But I understand it from a system perspective.) So while I do not like it... I think I can live with it.
-- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
On 2/16/06, Scott Ames wrote: > ** > Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set > Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only > makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many > times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all > parenthesis before making a change or to debug. > > I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming > "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write yourself" > 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it
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#130565 - 02/16/06 05:55 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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** ** I'll second/third/fourth/fifth that one. I'm making a lot of changes to our console view, and I'm sure the additional parantheses are just there to wind me up; there can be no other purpose, can there?
On 16/02/06, Scott Ames wrote:
** Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all parenthesis before making a change or to debug. I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write yourself" 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it
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#130566 - 02/15/06 11:50 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 35
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I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the condition.
Another enhancement I would like to see is some way of copying workflow between active links and filters particularly long set fields/push fields lists.
Server side table walking is a great new feature and it is saving me heaps of development time but is still a little rough around the edges. Issues like needing to set the value of a column into a temporary field before being able to use it in a function is annoying. Server crashes when the table field uses an invalid query and needing to reference column fields before they can be used at certain times are likewise annoying. Hopefully since this is a new feature the rough edges will be gone in V7.
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 1:51 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all parenthesis before making a change or to debug.
I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write yourself"
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#130567 - 02/16/06 11:26 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Registered: 04/25/04
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Hi folks,
OK, here are my ARS dreams.
You want less but more flexible workflow? Me too. Here's my bit how Remedy can make it:
1. Add "If Action"-Action.
Lets say we've got an Active Link. You write the RunIf Action and then on the "If Action" tab you add your Set Fields, Push Fields actions.
I'd suggest Remedy should add a new Action Type here called "If Action", which would make it possible to add condtion level within the Active Link. This would result in less workflow to build and migrate.
2. Make the Advanced feature work for buttons and fields.
In release 6.x Remedy added more of the Advanced feature allowing us to make workflow dynamic. Now we're able to say which field we want to change dynamically, dynamically specify the table we want to query or write to, etc.
However I'm still missing some more of the Advanced feature. I'd like to be able dynamically specify the Return/Table Dbl-Clk, Menu/Row Choice and Button/Menu Item things, an active link is triggered by.
Thomas
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#130568 - 02/16/06 12:35 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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"I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the condition."
If you are able to reproduce this consistently, I would be interested in how. I have yet to see this.
Axton Grams
On 2/16/06, Rodney Harris wrote: > ** > > > I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all > the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of > brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the > condition. > > Another enhancement I would like to see is some way of copying workflow > between active links and filters particularly long set fields/push fields > lists. > > Server side table walking is a great new feature and it is saving me heaps > of development time but is still a little rough around the edges. Issues > like needing to set the value of a column into a temporary field before > being able to use it in a function is annoying. Server crashes when the > table field uses an invalid query and needing to reference column fields > before they can be used at certain times are likewise annoying. Hopefully > since this is a new feature the rough edges will be gone in V7. > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames > Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 1:51 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set > Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only > makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many > times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all > parenthesis before making a change or to debug. > > > > I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming > "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write > yourself"20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it
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#130569 - 02/16/06 01:08 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Have you not ever been at least surprised at where Remedy automatically places the brackets? I'll make a note of the next time it happens to me and post it to the list.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 11:35 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
"I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the condition."
If you are able to reproduce this consistently, I would be interested in how. I have yet to see this.
Axton Grams
On 2/16/06, Rodney Harris wrote: > ** > > > I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all > the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of > brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the > condition. > > Another enhancement I would like to see is some way of copying workflow > between active links and filters particularly long set fields/push fields > lists. > > Server side table walking is a great new feature and it is saving me heaps > of development time but is still a little rough around the edges. Issues > like needing to set the value of a column into a temporary field before > being able to use it in a function is annoying. Server crashes when the > table field uses an invalid query and needing to reference column fields > before they can be used at certain times are likewise annoying. Hopefully > since this is a new feature the rough edges will be gone in V7. > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames > Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 1:51 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set > Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only > makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many > times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all > parenthesis before making a change or to debug. > > > > I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming > "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write > yourself"20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it > 20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it
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#130570 - 02/16/06 01:52 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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To add further to one of the longest threads in arslist history. How about date/time to date conversion and vice versa? Is there a better way than the three step process I seem to have to use? I'm not sure if it's because I use the Australian date format but to do the conversion I am creating a date string in a display only char field using the DAY,MONTH,YEAR functions. There should be an easy region independent way of moving dates between the two formats.
Rod Harris
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#130571 - 02/17/06 02:28 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Thomas' first item is similar to my wish, but I would phrase it this way: I'd like to see a mechanism for an Active Link SELECT...CASE statement similar to SQL.
(I haven't read every posting on this thread, so sorry if that duplicated someone else's idea.)
Mike Luttmann Senior Database Engineer Michael.Luttmann.Ctr@peterson.af.mil
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Thomas Miskiewicz Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:26 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Hi folks,
OK, here are my ARS dreams.
You want less but more flexible workflow? Me too. Here's my bit how Remedy can make it:
1. Add "If Action"-Action.
Lets say we've got an Active Link. You write the RunIf Action and then on the "If Action" tab you add your Set Fields, Push Fields actions.
I'd suggest Remedy should add a new Action Type here called "If Action",
which would make it possible to add condtion level within the Active Link. This would result in less workflow to build and migrate.
2. Make the Advanced feature work for buttons and fields.
In release 6.x Remedy added more of the Advanced feature allowing us to make workflow dynamic. Now we're able to say which field we want to change dynamically, dynamically specify the table we want to query or write to,
etc.
However I'm still missing some more of the Advanced feature. I'd like to be able dynamically specify the Return/Table Dbl-Clk, Menu/Row Choice and Button/Menu Item things, an active link is triggered by.
Thomas
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#130572 - 02/17/06 03:27 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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> 1. Add "If Action"-Action. > > Lets say we've got an Active Link. You write the RunIf Action and then on > the "If Action" tab you add your Set Fields, Push Fields actions. > > I'd suggest Remedy should add a new Action Type here called "If Action", > which would make it possible to add condtion level within the Active Link. > This would result in less workflow to build and migrate.
The first thing that comes to mind is debugging this AL structure. Makes writing it easier and finding it harder.
Axton Grams
On 2/17/06, Thomas Miskiewicz wrote: > Hi folks, > > OK, here are my ARS dreams. > > You want less but more flexible workflow? Me too. Here's my bit how Remedy > can make it: > > 1. Add "If Action"-Action. > > Lets say we've got an Active Link. You write the RunIf Action and then on > the "If Action" tab you add your Set Fields, Push Fields actions. > > I'd suggest Remedy should add a new Action Type here called "If Action", > which would make it possible to add condtion level within the Active Link. > This would result in less workflow to build and migrate. > > > 2. Make the Advanced feature work for buttons and fields. > > In release 6.x Remedy added more of the Advanced feature allowing us to > make workflow dynamic. Now we're able to say which field we want to change > dynamically, dynamically specify the table we want to query or write to, > etc. > > However I'm still missing some more of the Advanced feature. I'd like to be > able dynamically specify the Return/Table Dbl-Clk, Menu/Row Choice and > Button/Menu Item things, an active link is triggered by. > > > Thomas > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130573 - 02/17/06 03:42 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Thomas,
On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that the active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I love to do things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard code anything.
My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement request?
I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, fields, and refresh tables.
I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests years ago for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID, FIELDNAME, GROUPIDS, etc. Somewhere between ARS 5.1.2 and 6.3, they were added to the application.
Remedy, Peregrine, Remedy, BMCRemedy did and continue to listen.
These additional keywords have allowed us to create one menu that can be attached to multiple fields on multiple forms. One active link that can fire for multiple conditions, bring focus to multiple fields or dynamically refresh tables using a single Advanced Change field action.
If/when the Advanced Execute on conditions are added to the application, my dream will be almost complete.
I will also submit an enhancement request for this item. I hope you do, too. Michelle -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luttmann, Michael W Ctr 21 SCS/SCBBN Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Thomas' first item is similar to my wish, but I would phrase it this way: I'd like to see a mechanism for an Active Link SELECT...CASE statement similar to SQL.
(I haven't read every posting on this thread, so sorry if that duplicated someone else's idea.)
Mike Luttmann Senior Database Engineer Michael.Luttmann.Ctr@peterson.af.mil
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Thomas Miskiewicz Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:26 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Hi folks,
OK, here are my ARS dreams.
You want less but more flexible workflow? Me too. Here's my bit how Remedy can make it:
1. Add "If Action"-Action.
Lets say we've got an Active Link. You write the RunIf Action and then on the "If Action" tab you add your Set Fields, Push Fields actions.
I'd suggest Remedy should add a new Action Type here called "If Action",
which would make it possible to add condtion level within the Active Link. This would result in less workflow to build and migrate.
2. Make the Advanced feature work for buttons and fields.
In release 6.x Remedy added more of the Advanced feature allowing us to make workflow dynamic. Now we're able to say which field we want to change dynamically, dynamically specify the table we want to query or write to,
etc.
However I'm still missing some more of the Advanced feature. I'd like to be able dynamically specify the Return/Table Dbl-Clk, Menu/Row Choice and Button/Menu Item things, an active link is triggered by.
Thomas
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#130574 - 02/17/06 03:59 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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> I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > fields, and refresh tables.
This was one of Doug's no-no's if you want things to work properly in MT 6.3+. My understanding as to why it's a no-no is because of the way the pages are compiled, it can not account for dynamic changes to the layout at compile time.
Axton Grams
On 2/17/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor wrote: > Thomas, > > On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that the > active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I love to do > things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard code anything. > > My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement request? > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > fields, and refresh tables. > > I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests years ago > for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID, FIELDNAME, > GROUPIDS, etc. Somewhere between ARS 5.1.2 and 6.3, they were added to > the application. > > Remedy, Peregrine, Remedy, BMCRemedy did and continue to listen. > > These additional keywords have allowed us to create one menu that can be > attached to multiple fields on multiple forms. One active link that can > fire for multiple conditions, bring focus to multiple fields or > dynamically refresh tables using a single Advanced Change field action. > > If/when the Advanced Execute on conditions are added to the application, > my dream will be almost complete. > > > I will also submit an enhancement request for this item. I hope you do, > too. > Michelle > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luttmann, Michael W Ctr 21 > SCS/SCBBN > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:28 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > Thomas' first item is similar to my wish, but I would phrase it this > way: I'd like to see a mechanism for an Active Link SELECT...CASE > statement similar to SQL. > > (I haven't read every posting on this thread, so sorry if that > duplicated someone else's idea.) > > Mike Luttmann > Senior Database Engineer > Michael.Luttmann.Ctr@peterson.af.mil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Thomas Miskiewicz > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:26 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > Hi folks, > > OK, here are my ARS dreams. > > You want less but more flexible workflow? Me too. Here's my bit how > Remedy > can make it: > > 1. Add "If Action"-Action. > > Lets say we've got an Active Link. You write the RunIf Action and then > on > the "If Action" tab you add your Set Fields, Push Fields actions. > > I'd suggest Remedy should add a new Action Type here called "If Action", > > which would make it possible to add condtion level within the Active > Link. > This would result in less workflow to build and migrate. > > > 2. Make the Advanced feature work for buttons and fields. > > In release 6.x Remedy added more of the Advanced feature allowing us to > make workflow dynamic. Now we're able to say which field we want to > change > dynamically, dynamically specify the table we want to query or write to, > > etc. > > However I'm still missing some more of the Advanced feature. I'd like to > be > able dynamically specify the Return/Table Dbl-Clk, Menu/Row Choice and > Button/Menu Item things, an active link is triggered by. > > > Thomas > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130575 - 02/17/06 04:06 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Axton, I am not sure "work properly" is the right phrase there... I understood that the Mid-Tier does some "auto optimizations" that are not possible if you use even one dynamic thing (like this) in any active link on that form. So if your form does not need the auto optimization, or you think that all of your code/view/active links are as tight as possible already, then this concern may not be an issue at all. In short if you save enough active links/fields with these "advanced workflow" approaches then maybe what the Mid-Tier does to optimize the web client is not needed at all. -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. On 2/17/06, Axton wrote: > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > fields, and refresh tables. > > This was one of Doug's no-no's if you want things to work properly in > MT 6.3+. My understanding as to why it's a no-no is because of the > way the pages are compiled, it can not account for dynamic changes to > the layout at compile time. > > Axton Grams > > > On 2/17/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor > wrote: > > Thomas, > > > > On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that the > > active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I love to do > > things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard code anything. > > > > My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement request? > > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests years ago > > for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID, FIELDNAME, > > GROUPIDS, etc. Somewhere between ARS 5.1.2 and 6.3, they were added to > > the application. > > > > Remedy, Peregrine, Remedy, BMCRemedy did and continue to listen. > > > > These additional keywords have allowed us to create one menu that can be > > attached to multiple fields on multiple forms. One active link that can > > fire for multiple conditions, bring focus to multiple fields or > > dynamically refresh tables using a single Advanced Change field action. > > > > If/when the Advanced Execute on conditions are added to the application, > > my dream will be almost complete. > > > > > > I will also submit an enhancement request for this item. I hope you do, > > too. > > Michelle
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#130576 - 02/17/06 04:11 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Just reiterating what I heard at RUG in the 7.0 mid-tier session. I have not had a chance to play with it yet first hand though. Maybe someone on the list would be kind enough to do a proof as to whether dynamic field changes to hidden fields to make the fields visible functions in MT 6.3. Axton Grams On 2/17/06, Carey Matthew Black wrote: > Axton, > > I am not sure "work properly" is the right phrase there... I > understood that the Mid-Tier does some "auto optimizations" that are > not possible if you use even one dynamic thing (like this) in any > active link on that form. > > So if your form does not need the auto optimization, or you think that > all of your code/view/active links are as tight as possible already, > then this concern may not be an issue at all. > > In short if you save enough active links/fields with these "advanced > workflow" approaches then maybe what the Mid-Tier does to optimize the > web client is not needed at all. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. > Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. > > > > On 2/17/06, Axton wrote: > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > This was one of Doug's no-no's if you want things to work properly in > > MT 6.3+. My understanding as to why it's a no-no is because of the > > way the pages are compiled, it can not account for dynamic changes to > > the layout at compile time. > > > > Axton Grams > > > > > > On 2/17/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor > > wrote: > > > Thomas, > > > > > > On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that the > > > active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I love to do > > > things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard code anything. > > > > > > My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement request? > > > > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > > > I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests years ago > > > for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID, FIELDNAME, > > > GROUPIDS, etc. Somewhere between ARS 5.1.2 and 6.3, they were added to > > > the application. > > > > > > Remedy, Peregrine, Remedy, BMCRemedy did and continue to listen. > > > > > > These additional keywords have allowed us to create one menu that can be > > > attached to multiple fields on multiple forms. One active link that can > > > fire for multiple conditions, bring focus to multiple fields or > > > dynamically refresh tables using a single Advanced Change field action. > > > > > > If/when the Advanced Execute on conditions are added to the application, > > > my dream will be almost complete. > > > > > > > > > I will also submit an enhancement request for this item. I hope you do, > > > too. > > > Michelle > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130577 - 02/17/06 04:15 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Axton, I'm not sure this is dynamic enough but I have three fields, two hidden. When a specific value is selected in the visible field one of the hidden fields appears. A different selection makes the other field appear. The are stacked so the workflow is mutually exclusive. This works in Midtier 6.3 Patch 14. John J. Reiser Software Development Analyst Remedy Administrator/Developer Lockheed Martin - MS2 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:11 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Just reiterating what I heard at RUG in the 7.0 mid-tier session. I have not had a chance to play with it yet first hand though. Maybe someone on the list would be kind enough to do a proof as to whether dynamic field changes to hidden fields to make the fields visible functions in MT 6.3. Axton Grams On 2/17/06, Carey Matthew Black wrote: > Axton, > > I am not sure "work properly" is the right phrase there... I > understood that the Mid-Tier does some "auto optimizations" that are > not possible if you use even one dynamic thing (like this) in any > active link on that form. > > So if your form does not need the auto optimization, or you think that
> all of your code/view/active links are as tight as possible already, > then this concern may not be an issue at all. > > In short if you save enough active links/fields with these "advanced > workflow" approaches then maybe what the Mid-Tier does to optimize the
> web client is not needed at all. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. > Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. > > > > On 2/17/06, Axton wrote: > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > This was one of Doug's no-no's if you want things to work properly > > in MT 6.3+. My understanding as to why it's a no-no is because of > > the way the pages are compiled, it can not account for dynamic > > changes to the layout at compile time. > > > > Axton Grams > > > > > > On 2/17/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor > > wrote: > > > Thomas, > > > > > > On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that
> > > the active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I > > > love to do things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard code anything. > > > > > > My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement request? > > > > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > > > I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests > > > years ago for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID,
> > > FIELDNAME, GROUPIDS, etc. Somewhere between ARS 5.1.2 and 6.3, > > > they were added to the application. > > > > > > Remedy, Peregrine, Remedy, BMCRemedy did and continue to listen. > > > > > > These additional keywords have allowed us to create one menu that > > > can be attached to multiple fields on multiple forms. One active > > > link that can fire for multiple conditions, bring focus to > > > multiple fields or dynamically refresh tables using a single Advanced Change field action. > > > > > > If/when the Advanced Execute on conditions are added to the > > > application, my dream will be almost complete. > > > > > > > > > I will also submit an enhancement request for this item. I hope > > > you do, too. > > > Michelle > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130578 - 02/17/06 04:18 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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In short, yes. I did see a warning about its use on the mid-tier. However, it does work. At least with a show/hide of a dynamically set table. I have found that in order to use the Advanced feature in a Change Field action, the resolved value of the field to be changed, has to be the FieldID and not the field name. Win2K3/IIS/Mid-Tier 6.3 Patch 13 Win2K3/SQL Server 2000/ARS 6.3 Patch 11 Michelle -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:11 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Just reiterating what I heard at RUG in the 7.0 mid-tier session. I have not had a chance to play with it yet first hand though. Maybe someone on the list would be kind enough to do a proof as to whether dynamic field changes to hidden fields to make the fields visible functions in MT 6.3. Axton Grams On 2/17/06, Carey Matthew Black wrote: > Axton, > > I am not sure "work properly" is the right phrase there... I > understood that the Mid-Tier does some "auto optimizations" that are > not possible if you use even one dynamic thing (like this) in any > active link on that form. > > So if your form does not need the auto optimization, or you think that > all of your code/view/active links are as tight as possible already, > then this concern may not be an issue at all. > > In short if you save enough active links/fields with these "advanced > workflow" approaches then maybe what the Mid-Tier does to optimize the > web client is not needed at all. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. > Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. > > > > On 2/17/06, Axton wrote: > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > This was one of Doug's no-no's if you want things to work properly in > > MT 6.3+. My understanding as to why it's a no-no is because of the > > way the pages are compiled, it can not account for dynamic changes to > > the layout at compile time. > > > > Axton Grams > > > > > > On 2/17/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor > > wrote: > > > Thomas, > > > > > > On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that the > > > active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I love to do > > > things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard code anything. > > > > > > My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement request? > > > > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > > > I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests years ago > > > for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID, FIELDNAME, > > > GROUPIDS, etc. Somewhere between ARS 5.1.2 and 6.3, they were added to > > > the application. > > > > > > Remedy, Peregrine, Remedy, BMCRemedy did and continue to listen. > > > > > > These additional keywords have allowed us to create one menu that can be > > > attached to multiple fields on multiple forms. One active link that can > > > fire for multiple conditions, bring focus to multiple fields or > > > dynamically refresh tables using a single Advanced Change field action. > > > > > > If/when the Advanced Execute on conditions are added to the application, > > > my dream will be almost complete. > > > > > > > > > I will also submit an enhancement request for this item. I hope you do, > > > too. > > > Michelle > >
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#130579 - 02/17/06 05:11 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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What you have to demonstrate is, if you walk a table field that lists a series of field ids, then do the active link/change field/dynamic, using the field ids from the table field to change a series of fields to visible. Would be advantageous to demonstrate it for all field types, esp fields within a hidden page field, making both the page field and the fields contained within visible. Axton Grams On 2/17/06, Reiser, John J wrote: > Axton, > > I'm not sure this is dynamic enough but I have three fields, two hidden. > When a specific value is selected in the visible field one of the hidden > fields appears. A different selection makes the other field appear. The > are stacked so the workflow is mutually exclusive. > > This works in Midtier 6.3 Patch 14. > > > John J. Reiser > Software Development Analyst > Remedy Administrator/Developer > Lockheed Martin - MS2 > The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. > Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased > by me > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:11 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > Just reiterating what I heard at RUG in the 7.0 mid-tier session. I > have not had a chance to play with it yet first hand though. Maybe > someone on the list would be kind enough to do a proof as to whether > dynamic field changes to hidden fields to make the fields visible > functions in MT 6.3. > > Axton Grams > > On 2/17/06, Carey Matthew Black wrote: > > Axton, > > > > I am not sure "work properly" is the right phrase there... I > > understood that the Mid-Tier does some "auto optimizations" that are > > not possible if you use even one dynamic thing (like this) in any > > active link on that form. > > > > So if your form does not need the auto optimization, or you think that > > > all of your code/view/active links are as tight as possible already, > > then this concern may not be an issue at all. > > > > In short if you save enough active links/fields with these "advanced > > workflow" approaches then maybe what the Mid-Tier does to optimize the > > > web client is not needed at all. > > > > -- > > Carey Matthew Black > > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) > > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > > > Solution = People + Process + Tools > > Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. > > Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. > > > > > > > > On 2/17/06, Axton wrote: > > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > > > This was one of Doug's no-no's if you want things to work properly > > > in MT 6.3+. My understanding as to why it's a no-no is because of > > > the way the pages are compiled, it can not account for dynamic > > > changes to the layout at compile time. > > > > > > Axton Grams > > > > > > > > > On 2/17/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor > > > wrote: > > > > Thomas, > > > > > > > > On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that > > > > > the active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I > > > > love to do things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard > code anything. > > > > > > > > My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement > request? > > > > > > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > > > > > I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests > > > > years ago for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID, > > > > > FIELDNAME, GROUPIDS, etc. Somewhere between ARS 5.1.2 and 6.3, > > > > they were added to the application. > > > > > > > > Remedy, Peregrine, Remedy, BMCRemedy did and continue to listen. > > > > > > > > These additional keywords have allowed us to create one menu that > > > > can be attached to multiple fields on multiple forms. One active > > > > link that can fire for multiple conditions, bring focus to > > > > multiple fields or dynamically refresh tables using a single > Advanced Change field action. > > > > > > > > If/when the Advanced Execute on conditions are added to the > > > > application, my dream will be almost complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will also submit an enhancement request for this item. I hope > > > > you do, too. > > > > Michelle > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > > http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130580 - 02/16/06 09:11 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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OK, this reminds me of another one I would like to see. BTW, I went out and added my previous wish list of items as enhancement requests, and it shocked me to see that a majority of these STILL have not been added by the group as enhancement requests. I am sure all of you here don't do much without a ticket or Change Request in your working world, why would you expect BMC to do differently? This is a great thread, but please create enhancement requests to BMC as well. That being said, in the Admin Tool if I add a field to a view as Visible, Hidden, Read-Write, Read-Only, Disabled, etc... Or I change a field Label, but not the Database Value, or change the visible length of he field or number of rows, I want the option for this change to filter to all views, some views, or no views. Timothy Button Remedy Systems Consultant tbutton@remedyconsultant.com -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:16 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Axton, I'm not sure this is dynamic enough but I have three fields, two hidden. When a specific value is selected in the visible field one of the hidden fields appears. A different selection makes the other field appear. The are stacked so the workflow is mutually exclusive. This works in Midtier 6.3 Patch 14. John J. Reiser Software Development Analyst Remedy Administrator/Developer Lockheed Martin - MS2 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:11 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Just reiterating what I heard at RUG in the 7.0 mid-tier session. I have not had a chance to play with it yet first hand though. Maybe someone on the list would be kind enough to do a proof as to whether dynamic field changes to hidden fields to make the fields visible functions in MT 6.3. Axton Grams On 2/17/06, Carey Matthew Black wrote: > Axton, > > I am not sure "work properly" is the right phrase there... I > understood that the Mid-Tier does some "auto optimizations" that are > not possible if you use even one dynamic thing (like this) in any > active link on that form. > > So if your form does not need the auto optimization, or you think that
> all of your code/view/active links are as tight as possible already, > then this concern may not be an issue at all. > > In short if you save enough active links/fields with these "advanced > workflow" approaches then maybe what the Mid-Tier does to optimize the
> web client is not needed at all. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. > Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. > > > > On 2/17/06, Axton wrote: > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > This was one of Doug's no-no's if you want things to work properly > > in MT 6.3+. My understanding as to why it's a no-no is because of > > the way the pages are compiled, it can not account for dynamic > > changes to the layout at compile time. > > > > Axton Grams > > > > > > On 2/17/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor > > wrote: > > > Thomas, > > > > > > On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that
> > > the active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I > > > love to do things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard code anything. > > > > > > My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement request? > > > > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > > > I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests > > > years ago for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID,
> > > FIELDNAME, GROUPIDS, etc. Somewhere between ARS 5.1.2 and 6.3, > > > they were added to the application. > > > > > > Remedy, Peregrine, Remedy, BMCRemedy did and continue to listen. > > > > > > These additional keywords have allowed us to create one menu that > > > can be attached to multiple fields on multiple forms. One active > > > link that can fire for multiple conditions, bring focus to > > > multiple fields or dynamically refresh tables using a single Advanced Change field action. > > > > > > If/when the Advanced Execute on conditions are added to the > > > application, my dream will be almost complete. > > > > > > > > > I will also submit an enhancement request for this item. I hope > > > you do, too. > > > Michelle > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > http://www.ARSLIST.org >
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#130581 - 02/16/06 09:20 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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John and Timothy: Yes this has been brought forward before and you should put in an Enhancement request. Also post the RFE # to the list so we all can add onto it if we feel it is a necessary feature. Like the phrase goes "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." In other words, if you are the only one who requests a feature, then that feature will receive a low priority. If more folks say that they would like that feature, more priority is placed on that feature. James McKenzie -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Timothy Button Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? OK, this reminds me of another one I would like to see. BTW, I went out and added my previous wish list of items as enhancement requests, and it shocked me to see that a majority of these STILL have not been added by the group as enhancement requests. I am sure all of you here don't do much without a ticket or Change Request in your working world, why would you expect BMC to do differently? This is a great thread, but please create enhancement requests to BMC as well. That being said, in the Admin Tool if I add a field to a view as Visible, Hidden, Read-Write, Read-Only, Disabled, etc... Or I change a field Label, but not the Database Value, or change the visible length of he field or number of rows, I want the option for this change to filter to all views, some views, or no views. Timothy Button Remedy Systems Consultant tbutton@remedyconsultant.com -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:16 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Axton, I'm not sure this is dynamic enough but I have three fields, two hidden. When a specific value is selected in the visible field one of the hidden fields appears. A different selection makes the other field appear. The are stacked so the workflow is mutually exclusive. This works in Midtier 6.3 Patch 14. John J. Reiser Software Development Analyst Remedy Administrator/Developer Lockheed Martin - MS2 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:11 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? Just reiterating what I heard at RUG in the 7.0 mid-tier session. I have not had a chance to play with it yet first hand though. Maybe someone on the list would be kind enough to do a proof as to whether dynamic field changes to hidden fields to make the fields visible functions in MT 6.3. Axton Grams On 2/17/06, Carey Matthew Black wrote: > Axton, > > I am not sure "work properly" is the right phrase there... I > understood that the Mid-Tier does some "auto optimizations" that are > not possible if you use even one dynamic thing (like this) in any > active link on that form. > > So if your form does not need the auto optimization, or you think that
> all of your code/view/active links are as tight as possible already, > then this concern may not be an issue at all. > > In short if you save enough active links/fields with these "advanced > workflow" approaches then maybe what the Mid-Tier does to optimize the
> web client is not needed at all. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. > Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. > > > > On 2/17/06, Axton wrote: > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > This was one of Doug's no-no's if you want things to work properly > > in MT 6.3+. My understanding as to why it's a no-no is because of > > the way the pages are compiled, it can not account for dynamic > > changes to the layout at compile time. > > > > Axton Grams > > > > > > On 2/17/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor > > wrote: > > > Thomas, > > > > > > On your second item. Dynamically specify the button or field that
> > > the active link is triggered by. That is an AWESOME request! I > > > love to do things dynamically. I cringe anytime, I have to hard code anything. > > > > > > My question is, have you submitted this one as an enhancement request? > > > > > > I use the Advanced feature to dynamically show/hide, bring focus, > > > fields, and refresh tables. > > > > > > I (along with others, I'm sure) submitted enhancement requests > > > years ago for the following types of keywords:FIELDLABEL, FIELDID,
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#130582 - 02/17/06 01:33 AM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
[Re: niklas_asplund442]
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** I've often wondered if they actually need them. Do you suppose it is possible their code wouldn't know what to do with multiple operands beyond two for an addition operation? They had to write something to put in those annoying parentheses, so I would think the code was bright enough to cope but who knows... 8)
On 2/16/06, Rick Cook wrote:
Fo' Shizzle! I can't tell you how many times I've yelled at Administrator to "Stop helping me!" with the stupid parentheses in places I didn't intend them to be. Rick From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Dave Barber Sent: Thu 2/16/2006 9:55 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? ** I'll second/third/fourth/fifth that one. I'm making a lot of changes to our console view, and I'm sure the additional parantheses are just there to wind me up; there can be no other purpose, can there? On 16/02/06, Scott Ames wrote: ** Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all parenthesis before making a change or to debug. I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write yourself" 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it 20060125This posting was submitted with HTML in it UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
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#130583 - 02/20/06 07:26 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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I can't document it either, but I know I've had it happen to me, maybe not since version 4. Remedy actually repositioned my parends and changed the logic.
Jim O'Hara
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rodney Harris Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:08 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Have you not ever been at least surprised at where Remedy automatically places the brackets? I'll make a note of the next time it happens to me and post it to the list.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 11:35 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
"I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the condition."
If you are able to reproduce this consistently, I would be interested in how. I have yet to see this.
Axton Grams
On 2/16/06, Rodney Harris wrote: > ** > > > I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all > the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of > brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the > condition. > > Another enhancement I would like to see is some way of copying workflow > between active links and filters particularly long set fields/push fields > lists. > > Server side table walking is a great new feature and it is saving me heaps > of development time but is still a little rough around the edges. Issues > like needing to set the value of a column into a temporary field before > being able to use it in a function is annoying. Server crashes when the > table field uses an invalid query and needing to reference column fields > before they can be used at certain times are likewise annoying. Hopefully > since this is a new feature the rough edges will be gone in V7. > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames > Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 1:51 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set > Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only > makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many > times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all > parenthesis before making a change or to debug. > > > > I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming > "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write > yourself"20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it
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#130584 - 02/20/06 07:52 PM
Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
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Jim and the list:
Yes, this has happened to me. I had to go back and reset the paren's and then save again. The second time it actually worked as the qualification was supposed to. Why add all of this 'garbage' to a field that has a limited length is beyond me....
James McKenzie
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of O'Hara, Jim Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:27 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
I can't document it either, but I know I've had it happen to me, maybe not since version 4. Remedy actually repositioned my parends and changed the logic.
Jim O'Hara
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rodney Harris Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:08 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
Have you not ever been at least surprised at where Remedy automatically places the brackets? I'll make a note of the next time it happens to me and post it to the list.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 11:35 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy?
"I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the condition."
If you are able to reproduce this consistently, I would be interested in how. I have yet to see this.
Axton Grams
On 2/16/06, Rodney Harris wrote: > ** > > > I'll third that suggestion on the brackets. I also quite often remove all > the brackets when editing and I've also found the automatic addition of > brackets is sometimes done incorrectly and changes the meaning of the > condition. > > Another enhancement I would like to see is some way of copying workflow > between active links and filters particularly long set fields/push fields > lists. > > Server side table walking is a great new feature and it is saving me heaps > of development time but is still a little rough around the edges. Issues > like needing to set the value of a column into a temporary field before > being able to use it in a function is annoying. Server crashes when the > table field uses an invalid query and needing to reference column fields > before they can be used at certain times are likewise annoying. Hopefully > since this is a new feature the rough edges will be gone in V7. > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Ames > Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 1:51 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: What Bugs you about Remedy? > > > > Stop automatically adding parenthesis to the Run If qualifications and Set > Fields Values. It provides absolutely no benefit to the developer. It only > makes modifying a complex qualification or value more time consuming... many > times I have to copy/paste the value to Notepad.exe and manually remove all > parenthesis before making a change or to debug. > > > > I totally agree. I've fought with the parenthesis a lot usually screaming > "ok if you are so smart and know what I want, then just write > yourself"20060125This posting was submitted > with HTML in it 20060125This posting was > submitted with HTML in it
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