**

Good Evening all,

I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?

Noland Gregory
Sr. Remedy Developer
Fifth Third Bank



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It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.

Rick



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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
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**

Good Evening all,

I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?

Noland Gregory
Sr. Remedy Developer
Fifth Third Bank



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The couple that I tried downloading said "There is a problem with this document (20)" and wouldn't open. I just haven't reported it yet. Guess I need to open a ticket ..... sheeeesssshhhhh !

Susan


On 7/20/05, Rick Cook wrote:

**
It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.

Rick



From: Gregory, Noland
Sent: Wed 7/20/2005 7:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
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**

Good Evening all,

I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?

Noland Gregory
Sr. Remedy Developer
Fifth Third Bank



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Yeah, I got that, too. Only the first one I tried worked. Also, there aren't downloads attached for the really good stuff (7.0 sneak peek and Doug's upgrade session).

Rick



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**
The couple that I tried downloading said "There is a problem with this document (20)" and wouldn't open. I just haven't reported it yet. Guess I need to open a ticket ..... sheeeesssshhhhh !

Susan


On 7/20/05, Rick Cook wrote:

**
It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.

Rick



From: Gregory, Noland
Sent: Wed 7/20/2005 7:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads



**

Good Evening all,

I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?

Noland Gregory
Sr. Remedy Developer
Fifth Third Bank



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Why not post the URL so that we can all visit the site and see the presentations?



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**

The couple that I tried downloading said "There is a problem with this document (20)" and wouldn't open. I just haven't reported it yet. Guess I need to open a ticket ..... sheeeesssshhhhh !



Susan



On 7/20/05, Rick Cook wrote:

**

It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.



Rick





From: Gregory, Noland
Sent: Wed 7/20/2005 7:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads



**

Good Evening all,

I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?

Noland Gregory
Sr. Remedy Developer
Fifth Third Bank



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I think everyone is watching what is being posted. The url was provided to those that attended (paid) for RUG. With formats changing in general it is wise to make sure things that are made available are not withdrawn in the future. If BMC decides at some point to open it up, which would be great for everyone, that's up to them. What people do privately is one thing, but may not need to be advertised here.

Susan


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Why not post the URL so that we can all visit the site and see the presentations?



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**

The couple that I tried downloading said "There is a problem with this document (20)" and wouldn't open. I just haven't reported it yet. Guess I need to open a ticket ..... sheeeesssshhhhh !



Susan



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It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.



Rick







From: Gregory, Noland
Sent: Wed 7/20/2005 7:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads





**

Good Evening all,

I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?

Noland Gregory
Sr. Remedy Developer
Fifth Third Bank



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We all remember what happened to the 6.3 server release when the url was shared.

Axton

On 7/20/05, Susan Palmer wrote:
> **
> I think everyone is watching what is being posted. The url was provided to
> those that attended (paid) for RUG. With formats changing in general it is
> wise to make sure things that are made available are not withdrawn in the
> future. If BMC decides at some point to open it up, which would be great
> for everyone, that's up to them. What people do privately is one thing, but
> may not need to be advertised here.
>
> Susan
>
>
> On 7/20/05, Duchene, William H - Eagan, MN - Contractor
> wrote:
> > **
> >
> >
> > Why not post the URL so that we can all visit the site and see the
> presentations?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-arslist@arslist.org [mailto:owner-arslist@arslist.org] On
> Behalf Of Susan Palmer
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:08 AM
> > To: arslist@arslist.org
> > Subject: Re: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> >
> > The couple that I tried downloading said "There is a problem with this
> document (20)" and wouldn't open. I just haven't reported it yet. Guess I
> need to open a ticket ..... sheeeesssshhhhh !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/20/05, Rick Cook < rcook@denaliai.com> wrote:
> >
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff
> they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> > From: Gregory, Noland
> > Sent: Wed 7/20/2005 7:27 AM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> > Good Evening all,
> >
> > I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I
> missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we
> supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?
> >
> > Noland Gregory
> > Sr. Remedy Developer
> > Fifth Third Bank
> >
> >
> >
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Susan,

what a killjoy! Rub a little more salt in the wounds ;^> (I kid, I kid)



They usually get released to the "unwashed masses" eventually. I would hope that they don't hold people's intellectual property hostage to keep attendance up. There are enough things that are RUG ONLY that one would not expect to share if one did not attend but Session Presentations are one way to help convince management that you NEED to go next year. "Boss; look what I missed by not attending and asking some deep, incisive questions of this presenter. RUG is a 'must attend' next year. Please, oh pretty please."

Two RUGs(2000 & 2004) under my belt and hoping for more.



John J. Reiser

Remedy Administrator/Developer

Lockheed Martin Maritime Systems & Sensors

The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. -paraphrased by me





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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:33 PM
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**

I think everyone is watching what is being posted. The url was provided to those that attended (paid) for RUG. With formats changing in general it is wise to make sure things that are made available are not withdrawn in the future. If BMC decides at some point to open it up, which would be great for everyone, that's up to them. What people do privately is one thing, but may not need to be advertised here.



Susan



On 7/20/05, Duchene, William H - Eagan, MN - Contractor wrote:

**

Why not post the URL so that we can all visit the site and see the presentations?



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Subject: Re: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads



**

The couple that I tried downloading said "There is a problem with this document (20)" and wouldn't open. I just haven't reported it yet. Guess I need to open a ticket ..... sheeeesssshhhhh !



Susan



On 7/20/05, Rick Cook < rcook@denaliai.com > wrote:

**

It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.



Rick





From: Gregory, Noland
Sent: Wed 7/20/2005 7:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads



**

Good Evening all,

I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?

Noland Gregory
Sr. Remedy Developer
Fifth Third Bank



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There is no doubt about it.

I am certain that they are watching as well. I have the read receipt
feature set on my email, and receive a number of ‘read’ and
‘deleted-without-being-read’ messages every now and again that come out of
the bmc.com domain. Maybe it is one of their folks just using the list
like everyone else; maybe not. Who knows? All I can tell is that the
messages are being recieved there.

I will say that - since this is a public forum and one that is not
controlled by a particular company or person (sans Mr. B.) - I believe
that agreement on the content of my posts is optional. I don't spend any
nights awake wondering about it. I am entitled to my opinion and refuse to
feel intimidated for it.

Having said that, I will say that - in my opinion - the practice of
withholding presentations which could help the rest of the community
stinks. It used to be that you could go out to the site openly and
download them without any trouble. Now they are gone.

So now I have to attend the national RUG, and pay xyz amount of dollars to
be able to get a secret URL to download a presentation for a session that
I may have sat in on. Is it just me, or does this seem just a bit over the
top? Now you could make the arguement that this is "IP" content and that
it represents x dollars, but c'mon.. This stuff was meant to be presented
to an audience - and a large one at that. You can't tell me that the
knowledge isn't going to make it's way around - it always does.

What happened here? What happened to development being something that was
"cool" to do, and when (large portions of) knowledge was shared?

Ahhh well.. Maybe I should start looking into flying a plane (carrying
30,00lbs of bananas) for a living or something... I am beginning to feel a
bit old school here.



> I think everyone is watching what is being posted. The url was provided to
> those that attended (paid) for RUG. With formats changing in general it is
> wise to make sure things that are made available are not withdrawn in the
> future. If BMC decides at some point to open it up, which would be great
> for
> everyone, that's up to them. What people do privately is one thing, but
> may
> not need to be advertised here.
> Susan
>
> On 7/20/05, Duchene, William H - Eagan, MN - Contractor <
> William.H.Duchene@usps.gov> wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> Why not post the URL so that we can all visit the site and see the
>> presentations?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* owner-arslist@arslist.org [mailto:owner-arslist@arslist.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:08 AM
>> *To:* arslist@arslist.org
>> *Subject:* Re: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads
>>
>> **
>>
>> The couple that I tried downloading said "There is a problem with this
>> document (20)" and wouldn't open. I just haven't reported it yet. Guess
>> I
>> need to open a ticket ..... sheeeesssshhhhh !
>>
>> Susan
>>
>> On 7/20/05, *Rick Cook* wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff
>> they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Gregory, Noland
>> *Sent:* Wed 7/20/2005 7:27 AM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads
>>
>> **
>>
>> Good Evening all,
>>
>> I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I
>> missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we
>> supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?
>>
>> Noland Gregory
>> Sr. Remedy Developer
>> Fifth Third Bank
>>
>>
>>
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To play devil's (or manager's) advocate, John, if you could show the manager the session slides, why wouldn't the manager say "You got the information without going to RUG this year, why wouldn't that work for next year?"

Rick



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**

Susan,

what a killjoy! Rub a little more salt in the wounds ;^> (I kid, I kid)



They usually get released to the "unwashed masses" eventually. I would hope that they don't hold people's intellectual property hostage to keep attendance up. There are enough things that are RUG ONLY that one would not expect to share if one did not attend but Session Presentations are one way to help convince management that you NEED to go next year. "Boss; look what I missed by not attending and asking some deep, incisive questions of this presenter. RUG is a 'must attend' next year. Please, oh pretty please."

Two RUGs(2000 & 2004) under my belt and hoping for more.



John J. Reiser

Remedy Administrator/Developer

Lockheed Martin Maritime Systems & Sensors

The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. -paraphrased by me





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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:33 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
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**

I think everyone is watching what is being posted. The url was provided to those that attended (paid) for RUG. With formats changing in general it is wise to make sure things that are made available are not withdrawn in the future. If BMC decides at some point to open it up, which would be great for everyone, that's up to them. What people do privately is one thing, but may not need to be advertised here.



Susan



On 7/20/05, Duchene, William H - Eagan, MN - Contractor wrote:

**

Why not post the URL so that we can all visit the site and see the presentations?



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Subject: Re: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads



**

The couple that I tried downloading said "There is a problem with this document (20)" and wouldn't open. I just haven't reported it yet. Guess I need to open a ticket ..... sheeeesssshhhhh !



Susan



On 7/20/05, Rick Cook < rcook@denaliai.com > wrote:

**

It's on a yellow sheet of paper that was in that plastic sleeve of stuff they gave us in our backpacks. I just found it yesterday.



Rick





From: Gregory, Noland
Sent: Wed 7/20/2005 7:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RUG 2005 Presentation Downloads



**

Good Evening all,

I'm trying to download the slides from this year's RUG. Unfortunately, I missed the session they revealed the secret handshake in. What are we supposed to be using for the login and password for the downloads?

Noland Gregory
Sr. Remedy Developer
Fifth Third Bank



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