Hello Listers,

Need some help with the following. Same fields on two different tabs of a
view must be displayed in colour. Now, these fields(read only) exist on
multiple views across different forms too. Probably around 200 fields
altogether.

Any suggestions regarding best possible solution so that the workflow can
be minimized?

Thanks

Vicky


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Vicky,

What ARS server/client versions are you using?
( It will greatly affect the ideas/answer. )

When should the color(s) be changed? (What type of conditions are we
talking about here? 200 fields... likely more than one condition....
but what are the events... when the user changes a value in a field?
When the user displayed a record? When...?)

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.

http://www.fellowshipchurch.com


On 4/20/05, SUBSCRIBE arslist Vicky Zen wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> Need some help with the following. Same fields on two different tabs of a
> view must be displayed in colour. Now, these fields(read only) exist on
> multiple views across different forms too. Probably around 200 fields
> altogether.
>
> Any suggestions regarding best possible solution so that the workflow can
> be minimized?
>
> Thanks
>
> Vicky


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Version 5.01.02 Patch 1289. All the fields are 'read only'. They are
populated through the workflow on 'Window Open/Display'. On display, the
fields should be displayed in different colour, if the values between the
corresponding fields on the two tabs are different. This is for the users
to differentiate the changes they made by comparing old and new data.

Hope the above information helps. If not, please let me know.

Thanks!
Vicky



On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:48:06 -0500, Carey Matthew Black
wrote:

>Vicky,
>
>What ARS server/client versions are you using?
>( It will greatly affect the ideas/answer. )
>
>When should the color(s) be changed? (What type of conditions are we
>talking about here? 200 fields... likely more than one condition....
>but what are the events... when the user changes a value in a field?
>When the user displayed a record? When...?)
>
>--
>Carey Matthew Black
>Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
>ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
>Solution = People + Process + Tools
>Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
>Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
>
>http://www.fellowshipchurch.com
>
>
>On 4/20/05, SUBSCRIBE arslist Vicky Zen wrote:
>> Hello Listers,
>>
>> Need some help with the following. Same fields on two different tabs of
a
>> view must be displayed in colour. Now, these fields(read only) exist on
>> multiple views across different forms too. Probably around 200 fields
>> altogether.
>>
>> Any suggestions regarding best possible solution so that the workflow
can
>> be minimized?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Vicky
>
>

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The other question is ... Are you wanting to change the color of the
label or the color of the data in the field?

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Subject: Re: Changed Fields in 'Colour'

Vicky,

What ARS server/client versions are you using?
( It will greatly affect the ideas/answer. )

When should the color(s) be changed? (What type of conditions are we
talking about here? 200 fields... likely more than one condition....
but what are the events... when the user changes a value in a field?
When the user displayed a record? When...?)

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.

http://www.fellowshipchurch.com


On 4/20/05, SUBSCRIBE arslist Vicky Zen wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> Need some help with the following. Same fields on two different tabs
> of a view must be displayed in colour. Now, these fields(read only)
> exist on multiple views across different forms too. Probably around
> 200 fields altogether.
>
> Any suggestions regarding best possible solution so that the workflow
> can be minimized?
>
> Thanks
>
> Vicky


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Just the label.

Vicky

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:02:50 -0500, Grooms, Frederick W
wrote:

>The other question is ... Are you wanting to change the color of the
>label or the color of the data in the field?
>


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Vicky,

Ok... Version 5.01.02 Patch 1289.

So it sounds like you have a set of fields that map to each other.

'Field 1' , 'Old Field 1'
...
'Field 200' , 'Old Field 200'

And when the two values do not match, you have to change one or both
of the fields labels to a different color?

Is that about it?


If so, I think I have some good news and some bad news...

You could make a table to drive this mess of color changes and loop
over the table with a table field and get "test" values and use them
in an EXTERNAL() qualification in a Run If of an active link...

BUT (here is the bad news)

I do not think you can dynamically pick which field to change the
label color on in the Change Field action in v5.1.2. (I think this can
be done in v6, or v6.3.)

So... you are likely stuck with an active link per field
set/combination. But you could tie the test qualification to a data
form in prep for a move to v6.3 workflow down the road.

You can try this, (but if it works I think it is unsupported in that
version) enter a $field ID$ value in the 'Field Name' portion of the
Change Field action. It might work, and it might not. But it is likely
worth a few minutes to test it out.

BTW: This is the syntax used by the v6.3 admin tool. It likely will
not work, but ... maybe the code was there "back in the day" and it
might work on the older clients too. You never know how much of this
stuff was in the client ahead of us being told about it. :)

BTW2: In v6.3 you can set the color based on a field value too. So
your data driven solution may also allow some fields to be "yellow"
and others to be "red". And you could let your users manage the data.
:)


And here is the really bad news...

If this has to work on the v5.1.2 Mid-Tier you really will not like
the performance. Running 200 active links during display will not be
fun for the users. (You may want to offer a button that triggers an
active link guide so that the users can "decide" when to do the check
and when not to for that client.)


Now... if you were a very good designer you would have set your field
ID's up in a way that might let you build your active links by editing
an XML form of the active links so that you do not have to mouse click
your way though 200+ active links. (But you may also be getting this
task after someone else built the form too.)

HTH. (maybe time for an upgrade?)

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.

http://www.fellowshipchurch.com



On 4/20/05, SUBSCRIBE arslist Vicky Zen wrote:
> Version 5.01.02 Patch 1289. All the fields are 'read only'. They are
> populated through the workflow on 'Window Open/Display'. On display, the
> fields should be displayed in different colour, if the values between the
> corresponding fields on the two tabs are different. This is for the users
> to differentiate the changes they made by comparing old and new data.
>
> Hope the above information helps. If not, please let me know.
>
> Thanks!
> Vicky
>
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:48:06 -0500, Carey Matthew Black
> wrote:
>
> >Vicky,
> >
> >What ARS server/client versions are you using?
> >( It will greatly affect the ideas/answer. )
> >
> >When should the color(s) be changed? (What type of conditions are we
> >talking about here? 200 fields... likely more than one condition....
> >but what are the events... when the user changes a value in a field?
> >When the user displayed a record? When...?)
> >
> >--
> >Carey Matthew Black
> >Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> >ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
> >
> >Solution = People + Process + Tools
> >Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
> >Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
> >
> >http://www.fellowshipchurch.com
> >
> >
> >On 4/20/05, SUBSCRIBE arslist Vicky Zen wrote:
> >> Hello Listers,
> >>
> >> Need some help with the following. Same fields on two different tabs of
> a
> >> view must be displayed in colour. Now, these fields(read only) exist on
> >> multiple views across different forms too. Probably around 200 fields
> >> altogether.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions regarding best possible solution so that the workflow
> can
> >> be minimized?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Vicky


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Thanks for the information provided. It did trigger some ideas. Will test
the alternative approaches and if found anything worthwhile other than
going ahead with the 'Active link' per field approach will post the same
to the list.

Thanks!
Vicky

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:41:35 -0500, Carey Matthew Black
wrote:

>Vicky,
>
>Ok... Version 5.01.02 Patch 1289.
>
>So it sounds like you have a set of fields that map to each other.
>
>'Field 1' , 'Old Field 1'
>...
>'Field 200' , 'Old Field 200'
>
>And when the two values do not match, you have to change one or both
>of the fields labels to a different color?
>
>Is that about it?
>
>
>If so, I think I have some good news and some bad news...
>
>You could make a table to drive this mess of color changes and loop
>over the table with a table field and get "test" values and use them
>in an EXTERNAL() qualification in a Run If of an active link...
>
>BUT (here is the bad news)
>
>I do not think you can dynamically pick which field to change the
>label color on in the Change Field action in v5.1.2. (I think this can
>be done in v6, or v6.3.)
>
>So... you are likely stuck with an active link per field
>set/combination. But you could tie the test qualification to a data
>form in prep for a move to v6.3 workflow down the road.
>
>You can try this, (but if it works I think it is unsupported in that
>version) enter a $field ID$ value in the 'Field Name' portion of the
>Change Field action. It might work, and it might not. But it is likely
>worth a few minutes to test it out.
>
>BTW: This is the syntax used by the v6.3 admin tool. It likely will
>not work, but ... maybe the code was there "back in the day" and it
>might work on the older clients too. You never know how much of this
>stuff was in the client ahead of us being told about it. :)
>
>BTW2: In v6.3 you can set the color based on a field value too. So
>your data driven solution may also allow some fields to be "yellow"
>and others to be "red". And you could let your users manage the data.
>:)
>
>
>And here is the really bad news...
>
>If this has to work on the v5.1.2 Mid-Tier you really will not like
>the performance. Running 200 active links during display will not be
>fun for the users. (You may want to offer a button that triggers an
>active link guide so that the users can "decide" when to do the check
>and when not to for that client.)
>
>
>Now... if you were a very good designer you would have set your field
>ID's up in a way that might let you build your active links by editing
>an XML form of the active links so that you do not have to mouse click
>your way though 200+ active links. (But you may also be getting this
>task after someone else built the form too.)
>
>HTH. (maybe time for an upgrade?)
>
>--
>Carey Matthew Black
>Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
>ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
>Solution = People + Process + Tools
>Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
>Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
>
>http://www.fellowshipchurch.com
>
>
>
>On 4/20/05, SUBSCRIBE arslist Vicky Zen wrote:
>> Version 5.01.02 Patch 1289. All the fields are 'read only'. They are
>> populated through the workflow on 'Window Open/Display'. On display, the
>> fields should be displayed in different colour, if the values between
the
>> corresponding fields on the two tabs are different. This is for the
users
>> to differentiate the changes they made by comparing old and new data.
>>
>> Hope the above information helps. If not, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Vicky
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:48:06 -0500, Carey Matthew Black
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Vicky,
>> >
>> >What ARS server/client versions are you using?
>> >( It will greatly affect the ideas/answer. )
>> >
>> >When should the color(s) be changed? (What type of conditions are we
>> >talking about here? 200 fields... likely more than one condition....
>> >but what are the events... when the user changes a value in a field?
>> >When the user displayed a record? When...?)
>> >
>> >--
>> >Carey Matthew Black
>> >Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
>> >ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>> >
>> >Solution = People + Process + Tools
>> >Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
>> >Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
>> >
>> >http://www.fellowshipchurch.com
>> >
>> >
>> >On 4/20/05, SUBSCRIBE arslist Vicky Zen wrote:
>> >> Hello Listers,
>> >>
>> >> Need some help with the following. Same fields on two different tabs
of
>> a
>> >> view must be displayed in colour. Now, these fields(read only) exist
on
>> >> multiple views across different forms too. Probably around 200 fields
>> >> altogether.
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions regarding best possible solution so that the workflow
>> can
>> >> be minimized?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Vicky
>
>

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