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The way I read the puzzle this was a three-engined plane, and not necessarily a jet.

David Adams
University of Southampton


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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..

**
I believe the first "Jet" passenger aircraft with 4 engines was...

....The tanker, called the KC- 135, was a huge success as a military plane but even more successful when revamped and introduced in 1958 as the first U.S. passenger jet, the Boeing 707. With a length of 125 feet and four engines with 17,000 pounds of thrust, the 707 could carry up to 181 passengers and travel at speeds as high as 550 miles per hour....


Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Brian Goralczyk
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:03
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Joe,

Since the first flight of the 747-100 had it first flight on 02-09-69 and had four engines, I think it would be a mistake to assume that 20 years ago planes didn't have more than two. I mean that baby is 36 years old.

Brian

Joe D'Souza wrote:

**
20 years ago planes didn't have more than 2 engines I'm sure.. tell me I'm wrong! And besides what's the point of burying survivors!

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Bradford Bingel
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:46 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Y'all are working too hard . . .

Use the one trip to the "bulb room" to set up a remove video camera, then set up a monitor in the room with the switches. Viola! You'll only need to flip two switches in order to map the switches to their associated bulbs. (Works regardless of bulb type, too, including "cool" bulbs. Nobody ever said you couldn't use additional tools or equipment!)

Another puzzle:

It's twenty years ago, and a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. (If you recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany.) Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing procedure. Unfortunately the remaining engine also fails and the plane fatally crashes smack in the middle of "no man's land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors?

a) East Germany
b) West Germany
c) In "no man's land"
d) Other (please specify)

First correct answer wins the "Brainiac of the Week" award.

-- Bing


Bradford Bingel ("Bing")
ITM3 California
http://www.itm3.com/
bing@itm3.com (email)
925-260-6394 (mobile)



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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Hello Listers,

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a
really
interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a while
though!

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room has
3
switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would
turn on
which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any 2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch b! elongs to which bulb..

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the room
you
are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch
belongs
to what bulb...

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the fun for
those who are trying to figure out the quiz..

Enjoy!!

Have a nice weekend all of you!

Joe DeSouza
Remedy Consultant,
Shyle Networks,
New Jersey.





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size=2>Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a
while.
Then
turn on switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the
next
room. The bulb that is really hot to the touch is for switch
one
and
the bulb that is just warm to the touch is for switch two. The bulb that
is
not
lit is, of course, for switch three.


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PM
To:
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Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and
Switches
problem..


**

Hello Listers,



This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!



While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what
was a
really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took
me a
while though!



Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...



There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other
room
has
3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which
switch
would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out
but...



You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and
any
2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which
bulb..



It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from
the
room
you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which
switch
belongs to what bulb...



Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil
the
fun
for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..



Enjoy!!



Have a nice weekend all of you!



Joe DeSouza

Remedy Consultant,

Shyle Networks,

New Jersey.







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Not only that, but the first really successful jetliner, the Boeing 707,
had four engines. Way back in the dark ages, I used to work on its
military counterpart, the KC-135. Believe me, under a full load, you
needed every bit of thrust from each of those clunky old turbojets just
to get off the ground. In fact, you had to sort of cheat and spray
demineralized water into the combustion chamber to get enough power out
of them.

And MAN were they loud!

--Tim

Brian Goralczyk wrote:
> **
> Joe,
>
> Since the first flight of the 747-100 had it first flight on 02-09-69
> and had four engines, I think it would be a mistake to assume that 20
> years ago planes didn't have more than two. I mean that baby is 36
> years old.
>
> Brian
>
> */Joe D'Souza /* wrote:
>
> **
> 20 years ago planes didn't have more than 2 engines I'm sure.. tell
> me I'm wrong! And besides what's the point of burying survivors!
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]*On Behalf Of *Bradford Bingel
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:46 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..
>
> **
> Y'all are working too hard . . .
>
> Use the one trip to the "bulb room" to set up a remove video
> camera, then set up a monitor in the room with the switches.
> Viola! You'll only need to flip two switches in order to map
> the switches to their associated bulbs. (Works regardless of
> bulb type, too, including "cool" bulbs. Nobody ever said you
> couldn't use additional tools or equipment!)
>
> Another puzzle:
>
> It's twenty years ago, and a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over
> Germany. (If you recall, Germany at the time was politically
> divided into West Germany and East Germany.) Anyway, during the
> flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the
> last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash
> landing procedure. Unfortunately the remaining engine also
> fails and the plane fatally crashes smack in the middle of "no
> man's land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would
> you bury the survivors?
>
> a) East Germany
> b) West Germany
> c) In "no man's land"
> d) Other (please specify)
>
> First correct answer wins the "Brainiac of the Week" award.
>
> -- Bing
>
> Bradford Bingel ("Bing")
> ITM3 California
> http://www.itm3.com/
> bing@itm3.com (email)
> 925-260-6394 (mobile)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..
>
>
> **
> Hello Listers,
>
> This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
> thinkers
> here might just enjoy this!
>
> While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a
> really
> interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me
> a while
> though!
>
> Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...
>
> There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other
> room has
> 3
> switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would
> turn on
> which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...
>
> You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and
> any 2
> switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to
> which bulb..
>
> It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from
> the room
> you
> are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch
> belongs
> to what bulb...
>
> Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the
> fun for
> those who are trying to figure out the quiz..
>
> Enjoy!!
>
> Have a nice weekend all of you!
>
> Joe DeSouza
> Remedy Consultant,
> Shyle Networks,
> New Jersey.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> size=2>Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a
> while.
> Then
> turn on switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the
> next
> room. The bulb that is really hot to the touch is for switch
> one
> and
> the bulb that is just warm to the touch is for switch two.
> The bulb that
> is
> not
> lit is, of course, for switch three.
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----
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> Request
> System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On
> Behalf
> Of
> *Joe DeSouza
> *Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00
> PM
> *To:*
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and
> Switches
> problem..
>
> **
> Hello Listers,
>
>
>
> This is completely way off topic and I thought some of
> our great
> thinkers
> here might just enjoy this!
>
>
>
> While working the other day one of my colleages quized
> us what
> was a
> really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer
> right - took
> me a
> while though!
>
>
>
> Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...
>
>
>
> There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and
> the other
> room
> has
> 3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which
> switch
> would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out
> but...
>
>
>
> You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the
> bulbs, and
> any
> 2
> switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs
> to which
> bulb..
>
>
>
> It is not possible to see the results of turning on a
> bulb from
> the
> room
> you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and
> figure which
> switch
> belongs to what bulb...
>
>
>
> Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil
> the
> fun
> for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..
>
>
>
> Enjoy!!
>
>
>
> Have a nice weekend all of you!
>
>
>
> Joe DeSouza
>
> Remedy Consultant,
>
> Shyle Networks,
>
> New Jersey.
>
>
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**
In 1939 When World War 2 started the British and the Americans had bombers that had 4 engines. The B 52 was built in 1959 and it has 8 engines.

>>> jdsouza@SHYLE.NET Apr 18, 2005 10:55:18 PM >>>

**
20 years ago planes didn't have more than 2 engines I'm sure.. tell me I'm wrong! And besides what's the point of burying survivors!

Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:46 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Y'all are working too hard . . .

Use the one trip to the "bulb room" to set up a remove video camera, then set up a monitor in the room with the switches. Viola! You'll only need to flip two switches in order to map the switches to their associated bulbs. (Works regardless of bulb type, too, including "cool" bulbs. Nobody ever said you couldn't use additional tools or equipment!)

Another puzzle:

It's twenty years ago, and a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. (If you recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany.) Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing procedure. Unfortunately the remaining engine also fails and the plane fatally crashes smack in the middle of "no man's land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors?

a) East Germany
b) West Germany
c) In "no man's land"
d) Other (please specify)

First correct answer wins the "Brainiac of the Week" award.

-- Bing


Bradford Bingel ("Bing")
ITM3 California
http://www.itm3.com/
bing@itm3.com (email)
925-260-6394 (mobile)



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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Hello Listers,

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a
really
interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a while
though!

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room has
3
switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would
turn on
which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any 2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which bulb..

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the room
you
are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch
belongs
to what bulb...

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the fun for
those who are trying to figure out the quiz..

Enjoy!!

Have a nice weekend all of you!

Joe DeSouza
Remedy Consultant,
Shyle Networks,
New Jersey.





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size=2>Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a
while.
Then
turn on switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the
next
room. The bulb that is really hot to the touch is for switch
one
and
the bulb that is just warm to the touch is for switch two. The bulb that
is
not
lit is, of course, for switch three.


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Joe DeSouza
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00
PM
To:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and
Switches
problem..


**

Hello Listers,



This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!



While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what
was a
really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took
me a
while though!



Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...



There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other
room
has
3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which
switch
would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out
but...



You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and
any
2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which
bulb..



It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from
the
room
you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which
switch
belongs to what bulb...



Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil
the
fun
for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..



Enjoy!!



Have a nice weekend all of you!



Joe DeSouza

Remedy Consultant,

Shyle Networks,

New Jersey.







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Hmm, I've always claimed to be a certified nut. Should I report myself to
myself?

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Yes, the first "Jet" passenger aircraft did have 4 engines but it was a DeHavilland Comet, which began service on May 2, 1952. :-)

Brian H.


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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:26 AM
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**
I believe the first "Jet" passenger aircraft with 4 engines was...

....The tanker, called the KC- 135, was a huge success as a military plane but even more successful when revamped and introduced in 1958 as the first U.S. passenger jet, the Boeing 707. With a length of 125 feet and four engines with 17,000 pounds of thrust, the 707 could carry up to 181 passengers and travel at speeds as high as 550 miles per hour....


Dave


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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:03
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Joe,

Since the first flight of the 747-100 had it first flight on 02-09-69 and had four engines, I think it would be a mistake to assume that 20 years ago planes didn't have more than two. I mean that baby is 36 years old.

Brian

Joe D'Souza wrote:

**
20 years ago planes didn't have more than 2 engines I'm sure.. tell me I'm wrong! And besides what's the point of burying survivors!

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Bradford Bingel
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:46 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Y'all are working too hard . . .

Use the one trip to the "bulb room" to set up a remove video camera, then set up a monitor in the room with the switches. Viola! You'll only need to flip two switches in order to map the switches to their associated bulbs. (Works regardless of bulb type, too, including "cool" bulbs. Nobody ever said you couldn't use additional tools or equipment!)

Another puzzle:

It's twenty years ago, and a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. (If you recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany.) Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing procedure. Unfortunately the remaining engine also fails and the plane fatally crashes smack in the middle of "no man's land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors?

a) East Germany
b) West Germany
c) In "no man's land"
d) Other (please specify)

First correct answer wins the "Brainiac of the Week" award.

-- Bing


Bradford Bingel ("Bing")
ITM3 California
http://www.itm3.com/
bing@itm3.com (email)
925-260-6394 (mobile)



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Hello Listers,

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a
really
interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a while
though!

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room has
3
switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would
turn on
which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any 2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch b! elongs to which bulb..

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the room
you
are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch
belongs
to what bulb...

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the fun for
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size=2>Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a
while.
Then
turn on switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the
next
room. The bulb that is really hot to the touch is for switch
one
and
the bulb that is just warm to the touch is for switch two. The bulb that
is
not
lit is, of course, for switch three.


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Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and
Switches
problem..


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Hello Listers,



This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!



While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what
was a
really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took
me a
while though!



Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...



There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other
room
has
3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which
switch
would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out
but...



You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and
any
2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which
bulb..



It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from
the
room
you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which
switch
belongs to what bulb...



Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil
the
fun
for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..



Enjoy!!



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Shyle Networks,

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>>> jdsouza@SHYLE.NET Apr 18, 2005 10:55:18 PM >>>

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20 years ago planes didn't have more than 2 engines I'm sure.. tell me I'm wrong! And besides what's the point of burying survivors!

Joe

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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:46 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
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Y'all are working too hard . . .

Use the one trip to the "bulb room" to set up a remove video camera, then set up a monitor in the room with the switches. Viola! You'll only need to flip two switches in order to map the switches to their associated bulbs. (Works regardless of bulb type, too, including "cool" bulbs. Nobody ever said you couldn't use additional tools or equipment!)

Another puzzle:

It's twenty years ago, and a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. (If you recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany.) Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing procedure. Unfortunately the remaining engine also fails and the plane fatally crashes smack in the middle of "no man's land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors?

a) East Germany
b) West Germany
c) In "no man's land"
d) Other (please specify)

First correct answer wins the "Brainiac of the Week" award.

-- Bing


Bradford Bingel ("Bing")
ITM3 California
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Hello Listers,

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a
really
interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a while
though!

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room has
3
switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would
turn on
which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any 2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which bulb..

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the room
you
are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch
belongs
to what bulb...

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the fun for
those who are trying to figure out the quiz..

Enjoy!!

Have a nice weekend all of you!

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size=2>Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a
while.
Then
turn on switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the
next
room. The bulb that is really hot to the touch is for switch
one
and
the bulb that is just warm to the touch is for switch two. The bulb that
is
not
lit is, of course, for switch three.


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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00
PM
To:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and
Switches
problem..


**

Hello Listers,



This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!



While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what
was a
really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took
me a
while though!



Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...



There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other
room
has
3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which
switch
would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out
but...



You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and
any
2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which
bulb..



It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from
the
room
you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which
switch
belongs to what bulb...



Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil
the
fun
for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..



Enjoy!!



Have a nice weekend all of you!



Joe DeSouza

Remedy Consultant,

Shyle Networks,

New Jersey.







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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:03 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


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Joe,

Since the first flight of the 747-100 had it first flight on 02-09-69 and had four engines, I think it would be a mistake to assume that 20 years ago planes didn't have more than two. I mean that baby is 36 years old.

Brian

Joe D'Souza wrote:

**
20 years ago planes didn't have more than 2 engines I'm sure.. tell me I'm wrong! And besides what's the point of burying survivors!

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Bradford Bingel
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:46 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Y'all are working too hard . . .

Use the one trip to the "bulb room" to set up a remove video camera, then set up a monitor in the room with the switches. Viola! You'll only need to flip two switches in order to map the switches to their associated bulbs. (Works regardless of bulb type, too, including "cool" bulbs. Nobody ever said you couldn't use additional tools or equipment!)

Another puzzle:

It's twenty years ago, and a plane is flying at 20,000 feet over Germany. (If you recall, Germany at the time was politically divided into West Germany and East Germany.) Anyway, during the flight, TWO of the engines fail. The pilot, realizing that the last remaining engine is also failing, decides on a crash landing procedure. Unfortunately the remaining engine also fails and the plane fatally crashes smack in the middle of "no man's land" between East Germany and West Germany. Where would you bury the survivors?

a) East Germany
b) West Germany
c) In "no man's land"
d) Other (please specify)

First correct answer wins the "Brainiac of the Week" award.

-- Bing


Bradford Bingel ("Bing")
ITM3 California
http://www.itm3.com/
bing@itm3.com (email)
925-260-6394 (mobile)



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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Hello Listers,

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a
really
interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a while
though!

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room has
3
switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would
turn on
which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any 2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which bulb..

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the room
you
are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch
belongs
to what bulb...

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the fun for
those who are trying to figure out the quiz..

Enjoy!!

Have a nice weekend all of you!

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size=2>Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a
while.
Then
turn on switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the
next
room. The bulb that is really hot to the touch is for switch
one
and
the bulb that is just warm to the touch is for switch two. The bulb that
is
not
lit is, of course, for switch three.


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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00
PM
To:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and
Switches
problem..


**

Hello Listers,



This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!



While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what
was a
really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took
me a
while though!



Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...



There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other
room
has
3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which
switch
would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out
but...



You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and
any
2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which
bulb..



It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from
the
room
you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which
switch
belongs to what bulb...



Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil
the
fun
for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..



Enjoy!!



Have a nice weekend all of you!



Joe DeSouza

Remedy Consultant,

Shyle Networks,

New Jersey.







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Hello Listers,

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great thinkers here might just enjoy this!

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a while though!

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room has 3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any 2 switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which bulb..

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the room you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch belongs to what bulb...

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the fun for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..

Enjoy!!

Have a nice weekend all of you!

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Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a while. Then turn on switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the next room. The bulb that is really hot to the touch is for switch one and the bulb that is just warm to the touch is for switch two. The bulb that is not lit is, of course, for switch three.


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Hello Listers,

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great thinkers here might just enjoy this!

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a while though!

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room has 3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any 2 switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which bulb..

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the room you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch belongs to what bulb...

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the fun for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..

Enjoy!!

Have a nice weekend all of you!

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Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a while. Then turn on
switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the next room. The bulb
that is really hot to the touch is for switch one and the bulb that is just
warm to the touch is for switch two. The bulb that is not lit is, of course,
for switch three.


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Quiz: The Bulbs and Switches problem..


**
Hello Listers,

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great thinkers
here might just enjoy this!

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a really
interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a while
though!

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room has 3
switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch would turn on
which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any 2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which bulb..

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the room you
are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch belongs
to what bulb...

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the fun for
those who are trying to figure out the quiz..

Enjoy!!

Have a nice weekend all of you!

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size=2>Hmmm... Turn switch one on and let it stay on for a while.
Then
turn on switch two for less time than switch one. Head into the next
room. The bulb that is really hot to the touch is for switch one
and
the bulb that is just warm to the touch is for switch two. The bulb that is
not
lit is, of course, for switch three.

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Switches
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**

Hello Listers,

 

This is completely way off topic and I thought some of our great
thinkers
here might just enjoy this!

 

While working the other day one of my colleages quized us what was a
really interesting quiz question.. I guessed the answer right - took me a
while though!

 

Ok the quiz/problem is as follows...

 

There are 2 rooms, one room has 3 electric bulbs, and the other room
has
3 switches, one switch each for bulb... You do know which switch
would turn on which bulb. You are given the task to find out but...

 

You are allowed just 1 visit to the room that has the bulbs, and any
2
switches to turn on, and figure out which switch belongs to which
bulb..

 

It is not possible to see the results of turning on a bulb from the
room
you are in. So just 1 visit, use any 2 switches, and figure which switch
belongs to what bulb...

 

Please do not reply to the list if you do not want to spoil the
fun
for those who are trying to figure out the quiz..

 

Enjoy!!

 

Have a nice weekend all of you!

 

Joe DeSouza

Remedy Consultant,

Shyle Networks,

New Jersey.

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