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#103288 - 08/10/04 10:30 AM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances
axton_w_grams Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 05/05/04
Posts: 246
1. Too many copies of the same data. When will Remedy implement a healthy
balance between a relational and copy model. There are situations where
one is definitely a better choice over the other, so why not give the
option?
2. When will login names be internally represented as a GUID so login names
can be changed without requiring 4 trillion data elements to be updated.
(This in part goes back to my first annoyance)
3. Better db utilization. Throw the C programmers and dba's in the same
room until they come up with a product that takes advantage of the features
offered by each db. Much of this could even be done while staying inside
the ANSI standards. (Again, this in part goes back to my first annoyance)


Kind Regards,
Axton Grams
New York Life
Remedy Solutions
Provider

Mobile: 404.861.7273
Work: 770.406.4415
Email: AxtonWGrams@NewYorkLife.com






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**
Listers,

With Version 6.x poised on the horizon I have to wonder
about some annoyances still in the "core" application like:

1. Checkboxes (don't get me started)
2. Delimiter for a Menu (when append menu selection allowed, i.e. a
semicolon or etc.)
3. Control of an Integer field (i.e. do NOT roll down to -1, -2, etc.)
4. MENU validation (i.e. allowing us to choose a MENU from a SQL lookup and
etc.)
5. Controlling a window size in the Mid-Tier (please no Java)
6. Comparing a Date to a Date Time field
7. AR Admin Tool - how about a progress meter when importing ?
8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting forms with associations, once I select delete
DELETE ?
9. AR Admin Tool - minimize the tool during import and (Windows) and it
takes the task
manager to restore the window ?


While I am all for the next latest and greatest, have any of these been
fixed, repaired
or etc.

Anyone have anything to add to this list ?




Regards?Gidd





Glidden L. Calden
BUOYANT SOLUTIONS, INC.
"Keeping business afloat
...in a Sea of Solutions"








Office ( 916.334.0599


Cell ( 916.761.3095
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E-mail + mailto:gidd@buoyantsolutions.net
Fax ? 916.339.2915





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#103289 - 08/10/04 12:08 PM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
frederick w grooms67 Offline
old hand

Registered: 06/12/01
Posts: 930
Of course this is not a problem when you have custom apps :)

You are correct on healthy balance. I have a couple of systems (not Remedy) that I have to pull data from that overkill on normalization. i.e. The state code in an address is in a separate table and all that is stored with the address is a pointer to the correct row in the master list. I mean how many times has the government changed the abbreviation for a state? Why waste 4 (or more) bytes of space for a 2 byte character?

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton W Grams/NYLIC
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:30 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances


1. Too many copies of the same data. When will Remedy implement a healthy balance between a relational and copy model. There are situations where one is definitely a better choice over the other, so why not give the option? 2. When will login names be internally represented as a GUID so login names can be changed without requiring 4 trillion data elements to be updated. (This in part goes back to my first annoyance) 3. Better db utilization. Throw the C programmers and dba's in the same room until they come up with a product that takes advantage of the features offered by each db. Much of this could even be done while staying inside the ANSI standards. (Again, this in part goes back to my first annoyance)


Kind Regards,
Axton Grams
New York Life
Remedy Solutions
Provider

Mobile: 404.861.7273
Work: 770.406.4415
Email: AxtonWGrams@NewYorkLife.com






|---------+---------------------------->
| | Gidd Calden |
| | | | TIONS.NET> |
| | Sent by: "Action |
| | Request System |
| | discussion |
| | list(ARSList)" |
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| | |
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| | 08/10/2004 03:39 |
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| | Please respond to|
| | arslist |
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|---------+---------------------------->
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
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| To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG |
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| Subject: OT:Remedy Annoyances |
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**
Listers,

With Version 6.x poised on the horizon I have to wonder
about some annoyances still in the "core" application like:

1. Checkboxes (don't get me started)
2. Delimiter for a Menu (when append menu selection allowed, i.e. a semicolon or etc.) 3. Control of an Integer field (i.e. do NOT roll down to -1, -2, etc.) 4. MENU validation (i.e. allowing us to choose a MENU from a SQL lookup and
etc.)
5. Controlling a window size in the Mid-Tier (please no Java) 6. Comparing a Date to a Date Time field 7. AR Admin Tool - how about a progress meter when importing ? 8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting forms with associations, once I select delete DELETE ? 9. AR Admin Tool - minimize the tool during import and (Windows) and it takes the task manager to restore the window ?


While I am all for the next latest and greatest, have any of these been fixed, repaired or etc.

Anyone have anything to add to this list ?




Regards?Gidd





Glidden L. Calden
BUOYANT SOLUTIONS, INC.
"Keeping business afloat
...in a Sea of Solutions"








Office ( 916.334.0599


Cell ( 916.761.3095
Web 8 http://www.buoyantsolutions.net
E-mail + mailto:gidd@buoyantsolutions.net
Fax ? 916.339.2915





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#103290 - 08/10/04 01:29 PM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
bestep578 Offline
newbie

Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 34
1) Not to beat a dead horse - but the group list field in the user record. Causes me no end of problems.
2) Drag & Drop migration for workflow in the admin tool between servers. Wouldn't always want to use it, but when you have one or two filters to move...it would be nice.
3) More time in the day to do remedy development :)

Bill Estep
----------------------
http://www.clubreading.com
An online community for the avid book reader.
On Aug 10, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Gidd Calden wrote:


** **
Listers,

With Version 6.x poised on the horizon I have to wonder
about some annoyances still in the "core" application like:

1. Checkboxes (don't get me started)
2. Delimiter for a Menu (when append menu selection allowed, i.e. a semicolon or etc.)
3. Control of an Integer field (i.e. do NOT roll down to -1, -2, etc.)
4. MENU validation (i.e. allowing us to choose a MENU from a SQL lookup and etc.)
5. Controlling a window size in the Mid-Tier (please no Java)
6. Comparing a Date to a Date Time field
7. AR Admin Tool - how about a progress meter when importing ?
8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting forms with associations, once I select delete DELETE ?
9. AR Admin Tool - minimize the tool during import and (Windows) and it takes the task
manager to restore the window ?


While I am all for the next latest and greatest, have any of these been fixed, repaired
or etc.

Anyone have anything to add to this list ?



Regards...Gidd





Glidden L. Calden
BUOYANT SOLUTIONS, INC.
“Keeping business afloat
..in a Sea of Solutions”





Office *( 916.334.0599

Cell *( 916.761.3095
Web *8 http://www.buoyantsolutions.net
E-mail *+ mailto:gidd@buoyantsolutions.net
Fax *? 916.339.2915



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#103291 - 08/10/04 01:42 PM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
jack_covert Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 398
Ability to log into multiple servers in one window using different
passwords. Like SQL Enterprise Manager.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:29 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances


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1) Not to beat a dead horse - but the group list field in the user =20
record. Causes me no end of problems.
2) Drag & Drop migration for workflow in the admin tool between =20
servers. Wouldn't always want to use it, but when you have one or two =20=

filters to move...it would be nice.
3) More time in the day to do remedy development :)

Bill Estep
----------------------
http://www.clubreading.com
An online community for the avid book reader.
On Aug 10, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Gidd Calden wrote:

> ** **
> Listers,
> =A0
> With Version 6.x=A0poised on the horizon I have to wonder
> about some annoyances still in the "core" application like:
> =A0
> 1. Checkboxes (don't get me started)
> 2.=A0Delimiter for a Menu (when append menu selection allowed, i.e. a =20=

> semicolon or etc.)
> 3. Control of an Integer field (i.e. do NOT roll down to -1, -2, etc.)
> 4. MENU validation (i.e. allowing us to choose a MENU from a SQL =20
> lookup and etc.)
> 5. Controlling a window size in the Mid-Tier (please no Java)
> 6. Comparing a Date to a Date Time field
> 7. AR Admin Tool - how about a progress meter when importing ?
> 8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting forms with associations, once I select =20
> delete DELETE ?
> 9. AR Admin Tool - minimize the tool during import and (Windows) and =20=

> it takes the task
> manager to restore the window ?
> =A0
> =A0
> While I am all for the next latest and greatest, have any of these =20
> been fixed, repaired
> or etc.
> =A0
> Anyone have anything to add to this list ?=A0
> =A0
> =A0
>
> Regards=85Gidd
>
> =A0
>
> Glidden L. Calden
> BUOYANT SOLUTIONS, INC.
> =A0 =93Keeping business afloat
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1) Not to beat a dead horse - but the group list field in the user
record. Causes me no end of problems.

2) Drag & Drop migration for workflow in the admin tool between
servers. Wouldn't always want to use it, but when you have one or two
filters to move...it would be nice.

3) More time in the day to do remedy development :)


Bill Estep

----------------------

http://www.clubreading.com

An online community for the avid book reader.

On Aug 10, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Gidd Calden wrote:


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append menu selection allowed, i.e. a semicolon or =
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Arial3. Control of an Integer
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Arial4. MENU validation (i.e.
allowing us to choose a MENU from a SQL lookup and =
etc.)


Arial5. Controlling a window size
in the Mid-Tier (please no Java)


Arial6. Comparing a Date to a Date
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Arial7. AR Admin Tool - how about
a progress meter when importing ?


Arial8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting
forms with associations, once I select delete DELETE =
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Arial manager to restore the
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#103292 - 08/10/04 01:47 PM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
mwatson2 Offline
journeyman

Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 116
How about not being able to expand the puny Advanced Search bar window
when searching?

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Covert, Jack
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:43 AM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances

Ability to log into multiple servers in one window using different
passwords. Like SQL Enterprise Manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Estep [mailto:bestep@CLUBREADING.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:29 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances


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1) Not to beat a dead horse - but the group list field in the user =20
record. Causes me no end of problems.
2) Drag & Drop migration for workflow in the admin tool between =20
servers. Wouldn't always want to use it, but when you have one or two
=20=

filters to move...it would be nice.
3) More time in the day to do remedy development :)

Bill Estep
----------------------
http://www.clubreading.com
An online community for the avid book reader.
On Aug 10, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Gidd Calden wrote:

> ** **
> Listers,
> =A0
> With Version 6.x=A0poised on the horizon I have to wonder about some > annoyances still in the "core" application like:
> =A0
> 1. Checkboxes (don't get me started)
> 2.=A0Delimiter for a Menu (when append menu selection allowed, i.e. a > =20=

> semicolon or etc.)
> 3. Control of an Integer field (i.e. do NOT roll down to -1, -2, etc.)

> 4. MENU validation (i.e. allowing us to choose a MENU from a SQL =20
> lookup and etc.) 5. Controlling a window size in the Mid-Tier (please
> no Java) 6. Comparing a Date to a Date Time field 7. AR Admin Tool -
> how about a progress meter when importing ?
> 8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting forms with associations, once I select =20

> delete DELETE ?
> 9. AR Admin Tool - minimize the tool during import and (Windows) and
> =20=

> it takes the task
> manager to restore the window ?
> =A0
> =A0
> While I am all for the next latest and greatest, have any of these =20

> been fixed, repaired or etc.
> =A0
> Anyone have anything to add to this list ?=A0 =A0 =A0
>
> Regards=85Gidd
>
> =A0
>
> Glidden L. Calden
> BUOYANT SOLUTIONS, INC.
> =A0 =93Keeping business afloat
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ..in a Sea of Solutions=94
>
> =A0
>
> =A0
>
> Office=A0 =A0( 916.334.0599
>
> Cell=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0( 916.761.3095 Web =A0=A0=A0 =A08
> =A0http://www.buoyantsolutions.net
> E-mail=A0 =A0+ mailto:gidd@buoyantsolutions.net Fax=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =A0=A0=FE =A0916.339.2915
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> =A0
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> =20=

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1) Not to beat a dead horse - but the group list field in the user
record. Causes me no end of problems.

2) Drag & Drop migration for workflow in the admin tool between
servers. Wouldn't always want to use it, but when you have one or two
filters to move...it would be nice.

3) More time in the day to do remedy development :)


Bill Estep

----------------------

http://www.clubreading.com

An online community for the avid book reader.

On Aug 10, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Gidd Calden wrote:


** ** =20

=
ArialListers,

=A0

ArialWith Version 6.x=A0poised on
the horizon I have to wonder


Arial about some annoyances still
in the "core" application like:


=A0

Arial1. Checkboxes (don't get me
started)


Arial2.=A0Delimiter for a Menu (when
append menu selection allowed, i.e. a semicolon or =
etc.)


Arial3. Control of an Integer
field (i.e. do NOT roll down to -1, -2, etc.)


Arial4. MENU validation (i.e.
allowing us to choose a MENU from a SQL lookup and =
etc.)


Arial5. Controlling a window size
in the Mid-Tier (please no Java)


Arial6. Comparing a Date to a Date
Time field


Arial7. AR Admin Tool - how about
a progress meter when importing ?


Arial8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting
forms with associations, once I select delete DELETE =
?


Arial9. AR Admin Tool - minimize
the tool during import and (Windows) and it takes the =
task


Arial manager to restore the
window ?


=A0

=A0

ArialWhile I am all for the next
latest and greatest, have any of these been fixed, =
repaired


Arialor etc.

Arial =A0

ArialAnyone have anything to add
to this list ?=A0


Arial =A0

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=
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#103293 - 08/10/04 10:47 PM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
daniel_r_holdsworth Offline
Stealth Member

Registered: 03/15/04
Posts: 16
Bill Estep wrote:

> 1) Not to beat a dead horse - but the group list field in the user
> record. Causes me no end of problems.
> 2) Drag & Drop migration for workflow in the admin tool between servers.
> Wouldn't always want to use it, but when you have one or two filters to
> move...it would be nice.
> 3) More time in the day to do remedy development :)

4) How's about a native client for Linux, or a client written in Java?

I have a lot of non-Windows users here, and something like that would
make my life a lot easier, since Mid Tier is somewhat fussy about
browser types and Java installs, which makes Linux use rather
problematic (having overly-fussy users doesn't help, though!).


--
Dr Dan Holdsworth
Remedy ARS Administrator, Manchester Computing
daniel.r.holdsworth@man.ac.uk
0161 275 0606




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#103294 - 08/10/04 10:30 AM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
axton_w_grams Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 05/05/04
Posts: 246
1. Too many copies of the same data. When will Remedy implement a healthy
balance between a relational and copy model. There are situations where
one is definitely a better choice over the other, so why not give the
option?
2. When will login names be internally represented as a GUID so login names
can be changed without requiring 4 trillion data elements to be updated
(This in part goes back to my first annoyance)
3. Better db utilization. Throw the C programmers and dba's in the same
room until they come up with a product that takes advantage of the features
offered by each db. Much of this could even be done while staying inside
the ANSI standards. (Again, this in part goes back to my first annoyance)


Kind Regards,
Axton Grams
New York Life
Remedy Solutions
Provider

Mobile: 404.861.7273
Work: 770.406.4415
Email: AxtonWGrams@NewYorkLife.com






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**
Listers,

With Version 6.x poised on the horizon I have to wonder
about some annoyances still in the "core" application like:

1. Checkboxes (don't get me started)
2. Delimiter for a Menu (when append menu selection allowed, i.e. a
semicolon or etc.)
3. Control of an Integer field (i.e. do NOT roll down to -1, -2, etc.)
4. MENU validation (i.e. allowing us to choose a MENU from a SQL lookup and
etc.)
5. Controlling a window size in the Mid-Tier (please no Java)
6. Comparing a Date to a Date Time field
7. AR Admin Tool - how about a progress meter when importing ?
8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting forms with associations, once I select delete
DELETE ?
9. AR Admin Tool - minimize the tool during import and (Windows) and it
takes the task
manager to restore the window ?


While I am all for the next latest and greatest, have any of these been
fixed, repaired
or etc.

Anyone have anything to add to this list ?




Regards?Gidd





Glidden L. Calden
BUOYANT SOLUTIONS, INC.
"Keeping business afloat
...in a Sea of Solutions"








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#103295 - 08/11/04 12:48 AM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
Anthony_Burkholder Offline
newbie

Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 13
My 2 cents,

The real reason to use a separate table to store state information (or
similar static data) is to prevent users from making the following kinds of
entries; VA, va, Va, vA, VG, VI, etc for Virginia. The problem isn't how
often the states have changed its how many ways will a user enter the data.
In the example above a search for all Virginia related items would be a
nightmare. The trouble saved is well worth the 4 bytes.


Anthony O. Burkholder
AOC Weapons System Database Administrator
Dynamics Research Corporation
(757) 225-7110 / DSN 575-7110
Email: anthony.burkholder@langley.af.mil
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-----Original Message-----
From: Grooms, Frederick W [mailto:frederick.w.grooms@XO.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:09 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances

Of course this is not a problem when you have custom apps :)

You are correct on healthy balance. I have a couple of systems (not Remedy)
that I have to pull data from that overkill on normalization. i.e. The
state code in an address is in a separate table and all that is stored with
the address is a pointer to the correct row in the master list. I mean how
many times has the government changed the abbreviation for a state? Why
waste 4 (or more) bytes of space for a 2 byte character?

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Axton W Grams/NYLIC
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:30 PM
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances


1. Too many copies of the same data. When will Remedy implement a healthy
balance between a relational and copy model. There are situations where one
is definitely a better choice over the other, so why not give the option? 2.
When will login names be internally represented as a GUID so login names can
be changed without requiring 4 trillion data elements to be updated. (This
in part goes back to my first annoyance) 3. Better db utilization. Throw
the C programmers and dba's in the same room until they come up with a
product that takes advantage of the features offered by each db. Much of
this could even be done while staying inside the ANSI standards. (Again,
this in part goes back to my first annoyance)


Kind Regards,
Axton Grams
New York Life
Remedy Solutions
Provider

Mobile: 404.861.7273
Work: 770.406.4415
Email: AxtonWGrams@NewYorkLife.com






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**
Listers,

With Version 6.x poised on the horizon I have to wonder
about some annoyances still in the "core" application like:

1. Checkboxes (don't get me started)
2. Delimiter for a Menu (when append menu selection allowed, i.e. a
semicolon or etc.) 3. Control of an Integer field (i.e. do NOT roll down to
-1, -2, etc.) 4. MENU validation (i.e. allowing us to choose a MENU from a
SQL lookup and
etc.)
5. Controlling a window size in the Mid-Tier (please no Java) 6. Comparing a
Date to a Date Time field 7. AR Admin Tool - how about a progress meter when
importing ? 8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting forms with associations, once I
select delete DELETE ? 9. AR Admin Tool - minimize the tool during import
and (Windows) and it takes the task manager to restore the window ?


While I am all for the next latest and greatest, have any of these been
fixed, repaired or etc.

Anyone have anything to add to this list ?




Regards?Gidd





Glidden L. Calden
BUOYANT SOLUTIONS, INC.
"Keeping business afloat
...in a Sea of Solutions"








Office ( 916.334.0599


Cell ( 916.761.3095
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#103296 - 08/11/04 12:54 AM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
sebastiaan_deman Offline
journeyman

Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 72
**

>(having overly-fussy users doesn't help, though!).

That might be the cause of a lot of issues. If we can somehow avoid having users that would solve most of my problems. Of course being without a job would be a minor setback :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[ mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Dan Holdsworth
Sent: 11 August 2004 10:48
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances


Bill Estep wrote:

> 1) Not to beat a dead horse - but the group list field in the user
> record. Causes me no end of problems.
> 2) Drag & Drop migration for workflow in the admin tool between servers.
> Wouldn't always want to use it, but when you have one or two filters to
> move...it would be nice.
> 3) More time in the day to do remedy development :)

4) How's about a native client for Linux, or a client written in Java?

I have a lot of non-Windows users here, and something like that would
make my life a lot easier, since Mid Tier is somewhat fussy about
browser types and Java installs, which makes Linux use rather
problematic (having overly-fussy users doesn't help, though!).


--
Dr Dan Holdsworth
Remedy ARS Administrator, Manchester Computing
daniel.r.holdsworth@man.ac.uk
0161 275 0606




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#103297 - 08/11/04 01:29 AM Re: OT:Remedy Annoyances [Re: Waldo]
martinrd Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 06/12/01
Posts: 383
How about making saved Diary field data available to workflow.

Dwayne Martin
James Madison University

---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:39:45 -0700
>From: Gidd Calden
>Subject: OT:Remedy Annoyances
>To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
>
> ** **
> Listers,
>
> With Version 6.x poised on the horizon I have to
> wonder
> about some annoyances still in the "core"
> application like:
>
> 1. Checkboxes (don't get me started)
> 2. Delimiter for a Menu (when append menu selection
> allowed, i.e. a semicolon or etc.)
> 3. Control of an Integer field (i.e. do NOT roll
> down to -1, -2, etc.)
> 4. MENU validation (i.e. allowing us to choose a
> MENU from a SQL lookup and etc.)
> 5. Controlling a window size in the Mid-Tier (please
> no Java)
> 6. Comparing a Date to a Date Time field
> 7. AR Admin Tool - how about a progress meter when
> importing ?
> 8. AR Admin Tool - Deleting forms with associations,
> once I select delete DELETE ?
> 9. AR Admin Tool - minimize the tool during import
> and (Windows) and it takes the task
> manager to restore the window ?
>
>
> While I am all for the next latest and greatest,
> have any of these been fixed, repaired
> or etc.
>
> Anyone have anything to add to this list ?
>
>
>
> Regards...Gidd
>
>
>
> Glidden L. Calden
> BUOYANT SOLUTIONS, INC.
> “Keeping business afloat
> ..in a Sea of Solutions”
>
>
>
>
>
> Office ( 916.334.0599
>
> Cell ( 916.761.3095
> Web 8 http://www.buoyantsolutions.net
> E-mail + mailto:gidd@buoyantsolutions.net
> Fax ? 916.339.2915
>
>
>
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