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#101559 - 06/29/04 06:55 AM Filter ordering
jhanson Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 93
**

Hello list,
I'm trying to find the 'normal' processing order for different filter actions. I've seen it before, but can't seem to find it now. Something like: 0-10 for form commands, 11-100 for error checking, 101-200 for ?, etc.

Thank you,

John Hanson
Remedy Administrator/Developer
The Standard
Standard Insurance Company
900 SW Fifth Avenue
Portland, OR 97204
Telephone (503) 321-7153
jhanson@standard.com

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#101560 - 06/29/04 08:33 PM Re: Filter ordering [Re: lia_athanasiou]
Jarl Groneng Offline
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Registered: 03/10/05
Posts: 2371
This is what I learned when I took the RAC cource;

000-100 Set workflow fields with appropiate values, NULL out temporary fields
100-300 Enforcement of business rules, check data on forms, set additional fields which will be needed later
300-600 Main workflow, calculations, and additional setting of workflow fields
600-900 Additional workflow, notifications, and audit trail logic
900-999 Reset temporary workflow fields, and cleanup


Regards,
Jarl



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of John Hanson
Sent: 29. juni 2004 18:56
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Filter ordering


**
Hello list,
I'm trying to find the 'normal' processing order for different filter actions. I've seen it before, but can't seem to find it now. Something like: 0-10 for form commands, 11-100 for error checking, 101-200 for ?, etc.
Thank you,
John Hanson
Remedy Administrator/Developer
The Standard
Standard Insurance Company
900 SW Fifth Avenue
Portland, OR 97204
Telephone (503) 321-7153
jhanson@standard.com
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#101561 - 06/29/04 08:59 PM Re: Filter ordering [Re: lia_athanasiou]
osborn_cybermak Offline
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Registered: 04/20/04
Posts: 13
This is what I learned when I took the RAC cource;

000-100 Set workflow fields with appropiate values, NULL out temporary fields
100-300 Enforcement of business rules, check data on forms, set additional fields which will be needed later
300-600 Main workflow, calculations, and additional setting of workflow fields
600-900 Additional workflow, notifications, and audit trail logic
900-999 Reset temporary workflow fields, and cleanup


Regards,
Jarl



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of John Hanson
Sent: 29. juni 2004 18:56
To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Filter ordering


**
Hello list,
I'm trying to find the 'normal' processing order for different filter actions. I've seen it before, but can't seem to find it now. Something like: 0-10 for form commands, 11-100 for error checking, 101-200 for ?, etc.
Thank you,
John Hanson
Remedy Administrator/Developer
The Standard
Standard Insurance Company
900 SW Fifth Avenue
Portland, OR 97204
Telephone (503) 321-7153
jhanson@standard.com
This posting was submitted via the Web interface







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#101562 - 06/29/04 10:42 PM Re: Filter ordering [Re: lia_athanasiou]
ars578 Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 70
Do not forget the “most important one” 1001! I would not have lived with
out it!

What I am talking about is execution order higher then 999. If you got a
filter and you want to bypass or prevent filters with higher execution
order to execute just add a final action “Go To Execution Order 1001”. It
will prevent the following workflow it fire.

They do NOT learn you 1001 at the RAC cource...

All the best
Terje
> This is what I learned when I took the RAC cource;
>
> 000-100 Set workflow fields with appropiate values, NULL out temporary
> fields
> 100-300 Enforcement of business rules, check data on forms, set additional
> fields which will be needed later
> 300-600 Main workflow, calculations, and additional setting of workflow
> fields
> 600-900 Additional workflow, notifications, and audit trail logic
> 900-999 Reset temporary workflow fields, and cleanup
>
>
> Regards,
> Jarl
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of John Hanson
> Sent: 29. juni 2004 18:56
> To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Filter ordering
>
>
> **
> Hello list,
> I'm trying to find the 'normal' processing order for different filter
> actions. I've seen it before, but can't seem to find it now. Something
> like: 0-10 for form commands, 11-100 for error checking, 101-200 for ?,
> etc.
> Thank you,
> John Hanson
> Remedy Administrator/Developer
> The Standard
> Standard Insurance Company
> 900 SW Fifth Avenue
> Portland, OR 97204
> Telephone (503) 321-7153
> jhanson@standard.com
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSList Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org (Support:
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#101563 - 06/29/04 10:59 PM SV: Filter ordering [Re: lia_athanasiou]
lars pettersson Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 06/12/01
Posts: 1888
Yes, very useful feature, but why not 1000 ...be sure that the filter skipping all other filters by goto 1000 have a low exorder, and that all filter that must be executed have lower exorder than the goto 1000 filter.

L ars Pettersson
Vattenfall Data AB
ARS Systems Engineer
S-461 88 Trollhattan
Sweden

Phone +46 520 888 35 Mobil +46 70 608 99 95
e-mail: lars.j.pettersson@vattenfall.com
www.vattenfall.se



-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fran: Terje Moglestue [mailto:ars@MOGLESTUE.COM]
Skickat: den 30 juni 2004 10:42
Till: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
Amne: Re: Filter ordering


Do not forget the "most important one" 1001! I would not have lived with
out it!

What I am talking about is execution order higher then 999. If you got a
filter and you want to bypass or prevent filters with higher execution
order to execute just add a final action "Go To Execution Order 1001". It
will prevent the following workflow it fire.

They do NOT learn you 1001 at the RAC cource...

All the best
Terje
> This is what I learned when I took the RAC cource;
>
> 000-100 Set workflow fields with appropiate values, NULL out temporary
> fields
> 100-300 Enforcement of business rules, check data on forms, set additional
> fields which will be needed later
> 300-600 Main workflow, calculations, and additional setting of workflow
> fields
> 600-900 Additional workflow, notifications, and audit trail logic
> 900-999 Reset temporary workflow fields, and cleanup
>
>
> Regards,
> Jarl
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of John Hanson
> Sent: 29. juni 2004 18:56
> To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Filter ordering
>
>
> **
> Hello list,
> I'm trying to find the 'normal' processing order for different filter
> actions. I've seen it before, but can't seem to find it now. Something
> like: 0-10 for form commands, 11-100 for error checking, 101-200 for ?,
> etc.
> Thank you,
> John Hanson
> Remedy Administrator/Developer
> The Standard
> Standard Insurance Company
> 900 SW Fifth Avenue
> Portland, OR 97204
> Telephone (503) 321-7153
> jhanson@standard.com
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSList Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org (Support:
> mailto:support@arslist.org ) ARSList is hosted by QMX SUPPORT SERVICES at
> www.QMXS.com This posting was submitted via the Web interface
>
>
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>
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#101564 - 06/29/04 10:56 PM Re: Filter ordering [Re: lia_athanasiou]
Jarl Groneng Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 03/10/05
Posts: 2371
Not then, as the GoTo action was not implemented yet. But they may do it now.

Regards,
Jarl


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Terje Moglestue
> Sent: 30. juni 2004 10:42
> To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Filter ordering
>
>
> Do not forget the "most important one" 1001! I would not have
> lived with
> out it!
>
> What I am talking about is execution order higher then 999.
> If you got a
> filter and you want to bypass or prevent filters with higher execution
> order to execute just add a final action "Go To Execution
> Order 1001". It
> will prevent the following workflow it fire.
>
> They do NOT learn you 1001 at the RAC cource...
>
> All the best
> Terje
> > This is what I learned when I took the RAC cource;
> >
> > 000-100 Set workflow fields with appropiate values, NULL
> out temporary
> > fields
> > 100-300 Enforcement of business rules, check data on forms,
> set additional
> > fields which will be needed later
> > 300-600 Main workflow, calculations, and additional setting
> of workflow
> > fields
> > 600-900 Additional workflow, notifications, and audit trail logic
> > 900-999 Reset temporary workflow fields, and cleanup
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jarl
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of John Hanson
> > Sent: 29. juni 2004 18:56
> > To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Filter ordering
> >
> >
> > **
> > Hello list,
> > I'm trying to find the 'normal' processing order for
> different filter
> > actions. I've seen it before, but can't seem to find it
> now. Something
> > like: 0-10 for form commands, 11-100 for error checking,
> 101-200 for ?,
> > etc.
> > Thank you,
> > John Hanson
> > Remedy Administrator/Developer
> > The Standard
> > Standard Insurance Company
> > 900 SW Fifth Avenue
> > Portland, OR 97204
> > Telephone (503) 321-7153
> > jhanson@standard.com
> >
>
>
> > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSList Archives at
http://www.ARSLIST.org (Support:
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>
>
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#101565 - 06/29/04 11:11 PM Re: Filter ordering [Re: lia_athanasiou]
ars578 Offline
journeyman

Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 70
1001 sounds better! But 1000 will do the same.

I find this very powerful and useful to combined with a “command
structure” either with a command form or with command fields. If you give
the command filter execution order “0” and last action is go to execution
order 1001. It will bypass everything except for other filters with
execution order “0”.

With several occasions I have used this technique to “bust” performance.

All the best
Terje

> Yes, very useful feature, but why not 1000 ...be sure that the filter
> skipping all other filters by goto 1000 have a low exorder, and that all
> filter that must be executed have lower exorder than the goto 1000 filter.
>
> L ars Pettersson
> Vattenfall Data AB
> ARS Systems Engineer
> S-461 88 Trollhattan
> Sweden
>
> Phone +46 520 888 35 Mobil +46 70 608 99 95
> e-mail: lars.j.pettersson@vattenfall.com
> www.vattenfall.se
>
>
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Fran: Terje Moglestue [mailto:ars@MOGLESTUE.COM]
> Skickat: den 30 juni 2004 10:42
> Till: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
> Amne: Re: Filter ordering
>
>
> Do not forget the "most important one" 1001! I would not have lived with
> out it!
>
> What I am talking about is execution order higher then 999. If you got a
> filter and you want to bypass or prevent filters with higher execution
> order to execute just add a final action "Go To Execution Order 1001". It
> will prevent the following workflow it fire.
>
> They do NOT learn you 1001 at the RAC cource...
>
> All the best
> Terje
>> This is what I learned when I took the RAC cource;
>>
>> 000-100 Set workflow fields with appropiate values, NULL out temporary
>> fields
>> 100-300 Enforcement of business rules, check data on forms, set
>> additional
>> fields which will be needed later
>> 300-600 Main workflow, calculations, and additional setting of workflow
>> fields
>> 600-900 Additional workflow, notifications, and audit trail logic
>> 900-999 Reset temporary workflow fields, and cleanup
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jarl
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of John Hanson
>> Sent: 29. juni 2004 18:56
>> To: ARSLIST@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Filter ordering
>>
>>
>> **
>> Hello list,
>> I'm trying to find the 'normal' processing order for different filter
>> actions. I've seen it before, but can't seem to find it now. Something
>> like: 0-10 for form commands, 11-100 for error checking, 101-200 for ?,
>> etc.
>> Thank you,
>> John Hanson
>> Remedy Administrator/Developer
>> The Standard
>> Standard Insurance Company
>> 900 SW Fifth Avenue
>> Portland, OR 97204
>> Telephone (503) 321-7153
>> jhanson@standard.com
>>
>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSList Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>> (Support:
>> mailto:support@arslist.org ) ARSList is hosted by QMX SUPPORT SERVICES
>> at
>> www.QMXS.com This posting was submitted via the Web interface
>>
>>
>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSList Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>> (Support:
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>> at
>> www.QMXS.com
>>
>>
>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSList Archives at http://www.ARSLIST.org
>> (Support:
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>> at
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